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Fri 30 Nov, 2007 02:55 pm
China tells more U.S. vessels to keep out
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- China has refused nine U.S. Navy ships and one Air Force jet entry to Hong Kong in the past month, U.S. military officials said Friday.
China has refused the USS Reuben James, seen in a 1989 photo, a Christmas port call in Hong Kong.
Senior Navy officials said that Beijing denied permission for the USS Reuben James, a Navy frigate, to make a holiday port call for sailors at the end of December.
The rejection occurred last week, at the same time China refused to allow the USS Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier battle group into Hong Kong for a Thanksgiving holiday port call.
A U.S. Air Force C-17 flight that had been scheduled for a routine resupply of the U.S. Consulate in Hong Kong also was denied permission to enter, Navy officials said.
The Kitty Hawk battle group was eventually granted permission to enter, but by then the ships were well on their way to port in Japan.
Days earlier, China refused to give two U.S. Navy minesweepers safe harbor in Hong Kong during a storm on the high seas.
The United States has filed a formal protest with China over the decisions.
U.S. officials are baffled about the reason or reasons for the port call refusals. China recently has expressed concerns about U.S. arms sales to Taiwan and President Bush's October presentation of a Congressional Gold Medal to the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader. Watch China put the blame on the U.S. ?
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There is speculation that the Chinese may have been conducting military exercises that they didn't want the U.S. Navy to see. Others think the refusals may have been the result of a misunderstanding.
Officials could not explain why the rejection of the Reuben James had not been disclosed before, even though reporters had repeatedly asked if there were any other pending port calls. One senior Navy official expressed dismay that the information had not been made public by the Pentagon.
White House deputy spokesman Scott Stanzel told reporters the White House is "aware" of the latest refusals and referred reporters to the Pentagon. Stanzel said a "clarification" on the matter was being sought from Beijing.
White House and other Bush administration officials have sought to defuse tensions with China, saying the United States wants to move ahead on broader issues of military cooperation.
Navy officials, meanwhile, say Japan is tightening approvals for Chinese navy visits into its ports. Crew members from a Chinese ship making a port call in Japan may not be allowed to tour a Japanese Aegis warship.
The U.S.-designed Aegis weapons system enables coordinated operations against threats from aircraft and missiles, surface ships and submarines.
It is not clear if the Japanese decision was made at the request of the United States.
@Adam Bing,
China's not a country you wanna **** with....just sayin'
@Adam Bing,
Adam Bing;47046 wrote:China tells more U.S. vessels to keep out
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- China has refused nine U.S. Navy ships and one Air Force jet entry to Hong Kong in the past month, U.S. military officials said Friday.
China has refused the USS Reuben James, seen in a 1989 photo, a Christmas port call in Hong Kong.
Senior Navy officials said that Beijing denied permission for the USS Reuben James, a Navy frigate, to make a holiday port call for sailors at the end of December.
The rejection occurred last week, at the same time China refused to allow the USS Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier battle group into Hong Kong for a Thanksgiving holiday port call.
A U.S. Air Force C-17 flight that had been scheduled for a routine resupply of the U.S. Consulate in Hong Kong also was denied permission to enter, Navy officials said.
The Kitty Hawk battle group was eventually granted permission to enter, but by then the ships were well on their way to port in Japan.
Days earlier, China refused to give two U.S. Navy minesweepers safe harbor in Hong Kong during a storm on the high seas.
The United States has filed a formal protest with China over the decisions.
U.S. officials are baffled about the reason or reasons for the port call refusals. China recently has expressed concerns about U.S. arms sales to Taiwan and President Bush's October presentation of a Congressional Gold Medal to the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader. Watch China put the blame on the U.S. ?
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There is speculation that the Chinese may have been conducting military exercises that they didn't want the U.S. Navy to see. Others think the refusals may have been the result of a misunderstanding.
Officials could not explain why the rejection of the Reuben James had not been disclosed before, even though reporters had repeatedly asked if there were any other pending port calls. One senior Navy official expressed dismay that the information had not been made public by the Pentagon.
White House deputy spokesman Scott Stanzel told reporters the White House is "aware" of the latest refusals and referred reporters to the Pentagon. Stanzel said a "clarification" on the matter was being sought from Beijing.
White House and other Bush administration officials have sought to defuse tensions with China, saying the United States wants to move ahead on broader issues of military cooperation.
Navy officials, meanwhile, say Japan is tightening approvals for Chinese navy visits into its ports. Crew members from a Chinese ship making a port call in Japan may not be allowed to tour a Japanese Aegis warship.
The U.S.-designed Aegis weapons system enables coordinated operations against threats from aircraft and missiles, surface ships and submarines.
It is not clear if the Japanese decision was made at the request of the United States.
I like the idea of limited nuclear attacks to reduce their population and set them back a good bit, industrially. America should keep China in the 19th Century, forever.:thumbup:
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;47148 wrote:I like the idea of limited nuclear attacks to reduce their population and set them back a good bit, industrially. America should keep China in the 19th Century, forever.:thumbup:
Despite the fact that China has nukes too?
@Adam Bing,
We cannot attack China, we rely on them way way to much. Our whole life revolves around the products that China produces. Our whole world would collapise around us if we pissed China off.
Sounds silly when you apply it outside of the M.E. does it not?
@Drakej,
Drakej;47192 wrote:We cannot attack China, we rely on them way way to much. Our whole life revolves around the products that China produces. Our whole world would collapise around us if we pissed China off.
Sounds silly when you apply it outside of the M.E. does it not?
That's because it's not the same. Destroying China, however,
would extend the life-span of our automobile civilization. Chinese and Indian oil-competition is hurting us.:thumbdown:
@Adam Bing,
What about the shoes you are wearing? The clothes? The tires for your automobile, the chair you are sitting in? A lot more of the products you use every day are produced in China. I would imagine more items that affect your life than the small fraction of oil we import from the M.E.
@Drakej,
Drakej;47201 wrote:What about the shoes you are wearing? The clothes? The tires for your automobile, the chair you are sitting in? A lot more of the products you use every day are produced in China. I would imagine more items that affect your life than the small fraction of oil we import from the M.E.
Small fraction of oil???? Man, are you ever misinformed. I can't help you.:lastweek:
@Adam Bing,
Chinas Not a country to **** with? LMAO 1 billion machine guns vs One nuke who will win HAHA
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;47330 wrote:Chinas Not a country to *** with? LMAO 1 billion machine guns vs One nuke who will win HAHA
Nuke'm now, before they get too powerful. Don't invade. Just
sink in a nuke every other week or so, until they're crippled beyond recovery. Take out their nukes first, of course.
Nuke'm. 

@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;47330 wrote:Chinas Not a country to *** with? LMAO 1 billion machine guns vs One nuke who will win HAHA
Hate to break it to ya but China has nukes too!
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;47446 wrote:Hate to break it to ya but China has nukes too!
And they're reach with those nukes is.... China... Good for them.
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;47359 wrote:Nuke'm now, before they get too powerful. Don't invade. Just
sink in a nuke every other week or so, until they're crippled beyond recovery. Take out their nukes first, of course.
Nuke'm. 


any government who limits the amount of children someone has, tells me they are already crippled beyond recovery
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;47499 wrote:any government who limits the amount of children someone has, tells me they are already crippled beyond recovery
Yeah......nuke'm until they glow.:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;47498 wrote:And they're reach with those nukes is.... China... Good for them.
Your sentance is completely incoherent, i have no idea what you're trying to communicate to me!
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;47576 wrote:Your sentance is completely incoherent, i have no idea what you're trying to communicate to me!
I apologize for allowing you to not understand what I said.
Perhaps this will clarify.
China has nukes, but does NOT have the ability to fire them outside of their borders. With their current firing abilities... a nuke fired off in the middle of china would not pass the border.
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;47597 wrote:I apologize for allowing you to not understand what I said.
Perhaps this will clarify.
China has nukes, but does NOT have the ability to fire them outside of their borders. With their current firing abilities... a nuke fired off in the middle of china would not pass the border.
really? and where did you get this information from ?
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;47606 wrote:really? and where did you get this information from ?
Indeed, I seem to remember only a month or so ago china launhing a rocket into space, I'm guessing thet went outside of their boarder.
@Numpty,
Numpty;47608 wrote:Indeed, I seem to remember only a month or so ago china launhing a rocket into space, I'm guessing thet went outside of their boarder.
that obviuosly dosen't count lol