@tvsej,
Quote:Is there any other time that we say the pledge other than in school? I don't ever remember doing so other than there, where else? Military?
I can?t think of any other time or place either?anyone that can is welcome to speak up?As for the military, no we have oaths that we take, oaths in which we pledge to protect the Constitution, the People, the government and to obey the dictates of the President and the military authorities.
Quote:As for changing it, I had no idea about that happening. Why did they change it I wonder, political correctness?
Well, in 1954 they added the ?Under God? and the official explanation was that like the ancient Spartans, whose strength lay not in their weapons but in their spirit and humility, the American people recognize ?that despite our great physical strength we must remain humble. They will help us to keep constantly in our minds and hearts the spiritual and moral principles which alone give dignity to man, and upon which our way of life is founded.?, in addition it was considered a ploy to show a solidarity against the minions of world Communism. These are just fancy words to say that even before the Christian Conservative movement of today, a majority religion forced a bit of their religion into government, an act that would have had our founding fathers aghast!
Quote:it was always about "where is the party tonight and who is going to be there".
Well, that is part of the human condition. I imagine that caveman was a ?party hardy? type also. The drug bit does bother me, but that is probably because I see a bit more of the results of them than does the average citizen. Still, we have had ?chemical abuse? with us ever since mankind had the intelligence to want to alter their consciousness. Heck, some animals even go out of their way to eat fermented berries and such (picture the horror of an African as an elephant drunk on fermented berries stumbles through ? quite literally through ? his bedroom). How many people die from legal intoxicants a year (alcohol) and how many from illegal intoxicants? Probably about the same?I?ll get off my soap box now?
Quote:Different generation I guess, Carter, Regan, Bush Senior and Clinton Era for me.
Not so different?the human condition never really changes, just modifies slightly?I remember the radio announcement of the bombing of Hiroshima (I was all of 3 or 4 years old)?and I remember how everyone in the house started jumping around and cheering, while I stood there not really understanding.
Quote:My parents were both Reganites and my dad was a Fighter Pilot in WWII
LOL ? I was a Reganite and my step dad was a fighter pilot in WWII, my dad was a motorcycle scout for Patton?s tanks.
Quote:I had older parents than other kids.
My kids can say that?my youngest just turned 21 (I am 65) and I was 32 when the oldest was born. Some of us just start late?I tell my wife that I waited for her to grow up. :patriot:
I never thought anything of it till I saw when they officially changed it.
