US Crime and Prision Population Up

The link B posted posses a really good point. What is the deal with incarcerating someone for years on a lame charge, such as throwing a cup of coffee at another car? I really do believe that one of the biggest problems with our crime rates and such is the lack of education and chances to do something else. Maybe if we gave these people some options to learn a skill in prison we could make a difference. Simply things like running a forklift or learning the basics of a computer.

What does that have to do with any thing?

I am not saying give them a masters in physics all I am saying is teach them how to cook, clean, sew, stamp out signs. This whole stick them in a hole, give them cable and a hyper focused version of the outside world is not working.

My point was that some are simply beyond hope, including skill-training. Some are fully institutionalized, and subliminally want to be there.

nice try, but you are absolutley WRONG! only an ignoramus would think most people WANT to be in prison.

nice try, but you are absolutley WRONG! only an ignoramus would think most people WANT to be in prison.

most inmates are incarcerated because certain elements in your government ( I lay no claim to it ) make a profit from them being there. our whole system of justice is based on how much can you pay is how much you can get away with.

since you know absolutley nothing about what inmates think you should not speak on the issue.

You don't know your butt from you elbow on this. I personally knew many criminals who admitted they couldn't live normal lives outside prison. As a probation officer, I even helped several GO BACK TO PRISON BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DO PROBATION. Before you open your hole, ask yourself if you KNOW anything.:damnit:

It varies from person to person, some do try to straighten up and should be given the opportunity to do so, others are destined to be career criminals and should be exterminated. I think the three strike law should be: Three strikes and you're dead.

really? the corrections system is set up to make money for certain elements of the government nothing else, that is why although the government will tell you "there is no such thing as a victimless crime!" that jails and prison are overcrowded with "criminals" whose crimes have no victims. That is also why known rich criminals get short sentences, if they go to jail at all.

first let me address the address the idea of a normal life outside prison, there is no such thing for a felon, and you CANT know because you arent one.

2nd, did you really KNOW any felons or just what was in their paperwork? I doubt as a probation/parole agent ( and I've dealt with more of them than you have ) you actually knew any of the personal issues that felons deal with on a daily basis, such as BIAS, and intolerant attitudes from employers and agents of the court systems.

3rd, people are not sucessful on probation/parole because they are held to IMPOSSIBLE EXPECTATIONS, for example I tell my parole agent"I need to pay off my drivers licsence fines so I can drive to work, my dad cant drive me anymore" was I allowed to? NO. I had "obligations" to the state I was told. guess why my parole was revoked, driving after revokation, oh yeah I am such a bad guy I actually went to my job, which if I didnt have I would go back to prison.

I am sure as a parole officer you were just as understanding to your charges as you are to others on this board.

once again I tell you you when you dont know what you are talking about DONT TALK!