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Decline Of The American Empire

 
 
RedOct
 
Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 12:14 pm
Hiiiii
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2007 12:52 pm
@RedOct,
When 'they' (whomever they might be) come for me, my family and God, during this so-called collapse of America, I'll die shooting massive amounts of bullets at them. They'd better come prepared. The first wave will die, hard.
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mako cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 10:46 am
@RedOct,
"P", we may not agree on a lot of things, but I will be there at you side with massive amounts of lead too! Strange how "they" keep predicting the collaspse of America, yet we are still here and a lot of other governments are footnotes in history! LOL Go figger! :patriot:
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 10:52 am
@mako cv,
mako;32190 wrote:
"P", we may not agree on a lot of things, but I will be there at you side with massive amounts of lead too! Strange how "they" keep predicting the collaspse of America, yet we are still here and a lot of other governments are footnotes in history! LOL Go figger! :patriot:


Most footnotes in history don't happen over night. Incremental decay of our civilization through the misdirection, and blunders of our leaders is leading us down a long hard road, that we CAN still manage to make right. The American people have to want it. The problem is we are pacified by McDonalds, and sold fear instead of dreams, burgers and the boogeyman are keeping the sheeple in line.

And pino, I got LOTS of 9mm, 7.62, and 5.56, the first wave will indeed die hard.
mako cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 10:59 am
@RedOct,
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The problem is we are pacified by McDonalds, and sold fear instead of dreams, burgers and the boogeyman are keeping the sheeple in line.

I am the security programs manager of a military federal law enforcement unit and work with an astounding group of young men and women. As long as they are there and represent the major of young America, we will persevere! Welcome aboard brother, Like the battle of Agincourt, we will heap the enemy bodies so high that the living attackers will have to climb a mountain of dead to reach us...:patriot:
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tvsej
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 11:52 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;32192 wrote:
Most footnotes in history don't happen over night. Incremental decay of our civilization through the misdirection, and blunders of our leaders is leading us down a long hard road, that we CAN still manage to make right. The American people have to want it. The problem is we are pacified by McDonalds, and sold fear instead of dreams, burgers and the boogeyman are keeping the sheeple in line.

And pino, I got LOTS of 9mm, 7.62, and 5.56, the first wave will indeed die hard.


Awsome statement!
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westernmom
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 12:40 pm
@RedOct,
RedOct aka fearmonger....

Move.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 12:43 pm
@westernmom,
westernmom;32213 wrote:
RedOct aka fearmonger....

Move.


Except, it's true. We ARE living well beyond our means as a nation, and it WILL catch up to us. We are just going to have to determine if we are going to reign it in, or let our children inherit our weaknesses.
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westernmom
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:34 pm
@RedOct,
My point being that just posting his distorted view and not having solutions is typical of people like him. Has he ever ran for office? Is he active in his community trying to affect a change? Does he have credit cards? What vehicle does he drive?

And, I'm sorry but the global warming has been going on since the earth was created. It's a cycle, people. Goodness, it snowed in here in July last year! The sky is falling...
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:46 pm
@westernmom,
westernmom;32225 wrote:
My point being that just posting his distorted view and not having solutions is typical of people like him. Has he ever ran for office? Is he active in his community trying to affect a change? Does he have credit cards? What vehicle does he drive?

And, I'm sorry but the global warming has been going on since the earth was created. It's a cycle, people. Goodness, it snowed in here in July last year! The sky is falling...


Does it matter if he personally isn't working at changing it? I mean some posters here think they are helping fight the war on terrorism by posting on the interent, if that isn't the most laughable thing I have ever heard. Criticizing lack of action, while wasting precious time posting on the interent is bad form.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 02:03 pm
@mako cv,
mako;32190 wrote:
"P", we may not agree on a lot of things, but I will be there at you side with massive amounts of lead too! Strange how "they" keep predicting the collaspse of America, yet we are still here and a lot of other governments are footnotes in history! LOL Go figger! :patriot:
By "we" are you saying you are an American citizen?
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mako cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 02:06 pm
@RedOct,
Naw, I am a citizen of the Republic of Texas...:patriot:
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 02:11 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;32232 wrote:
Does it matter if he personally isn't working at changing it? I mean some posters here think they are helping fight the war on terrorism by posting on the interent, if that isn't the most laughable thing I have ever heard. Criticizing lack of action, while wasting precious time posting on the interent is bad form.

Question, did you ever get a letter or email from some one who supported you but you didn't know who they were while you were serving? Did you take there thanks in stride or did you think there attempt invain?
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westernmom
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 02:18 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;32232 wrote:
Does it matter if he personally isn't working at changing it? I mean some posters here think they are helping fight the war on terrorism by posting on the interent, if that isn't the most laughable thing I have ever heard. Criticizing lack of action, while wasting precious time posting on the interent is bad form.


I have a quote that is posted above my desk, "Nothing is a waste of time if it adds to the person you are." If I learn things from these threads, then it isn't a waste of time. Mako has already given me a lot of things to research!

Besides, I'm a great multi-tasker!!! Being on this forum isn't the only thing I'm doing!
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Red cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 05:19 pm
@RedOct,
Becareful you don't get kicked in the head by a cow Western.
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politically-wrong
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 07:24 am
@RedOct,
Quote:
I have a quote that is posted above my desk, "Nothing is a waste of time if it adds to the person you are." If I learn things from these threads, then it isn't a waste of time


compare it to this one

Quote:
My point being that just posting his distorted view and not having solutions is typical of people like him. Has he ever ran for office? Is he active in his community trying to affect a change? Does he have credit cards? What vehicle does he drive?


i think redoct is usefully contributing through this thread by providing information to alot of people who will find it usefull (as you did from mako's post) , sorry westernmom, but you shouldnot be angry at him for posting a problem without providing the solution, the posting it self is a part of the solution, as in spreading awareness.
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westernmom
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 11:33 am
@RedOct,
PW,

The problem with "learning" anything from posts that supposedly are presenting viable problems is that it is full of personal opinion and not just facts. ie Global Warming
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westernmom
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 12:26 pm
RedOct;32421 wrote:
I know I'm being bashed and smeared by Red and her Westernmon. About Global Warming, there's floods in Ohio with 22 dead just today.


And I remember reading about numerous deaths due to bitter cold winter weather in February! How does that fit into global warming?
POLITICAL JEDI
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 01:35 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;32232 wrote:
Does it matter if he personally isn't working at changing it? I mean some posters here think they are helping fight the war on terrorism by posting on the interent, if that isn't the most laughable thing I have ever heard. Criticizing lack of action, while wasting precious time posting on the interent is bad form.


I don't think the "posters" think they are helping fight the WOT per say, but more along the lines of educating the masses of simple-minded individuals that there is indeed a WOT, and yes, it needs fighting. And the way to fight it is by removing the Talibans, Saddam's, Amadinejad's, Assad's, House of Saud's, ect, ect that do nothing but stifle human progress whilst promoting Anti-Americanism.

Post 9/11, we had to figure out a way to lessen the chances of more 9/11s. Whether you care to admit it or not, the neoconservative foriegn policy of fostering democracy in muslim/arab lands is a weapon in that war. If people are free to build businesses, buy deeded land and build homes, send their children to schools, pursue upward mobility, live their lives without fear, read newspapers of every opinion, vote for their leaders, resolve differences with debate and not bombs, they will have no reason to want to harm us.

There's a profound reason why blue states don't plant IED's on red state highways and visa versa. . .maybe, just maybe, you just don't get why! I notice you're quick to quote Benjamin Franklin's: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety", but what you fail to realize is, freedom is a very fragile thing. Just because you were fortunate enough to have been born into it, and wouldn't know tyranny from a hole in the wall, doesn't mean it automatically comes with the air you breathe -- Freedom was crushed in Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, China's Tiananmen Square 1989, and Iraq 1991. The lesson: matched against tyranny at its point of maximum cruelty, freedom has no chance.

But according to you, you simply can't get behind and support your President in the removing Saddam and his kin from power and implementing our Western values because: "he had run the beginning of the war under such a load of changing BS". . . What a crock of sh*t! :beat:
POLITICAL JEDI
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 01:49 pm
RedOct;32421 wrote:
I know I'm being bashed and smeared by Red and her Westernmon. About Global Warming, there's floods in Ohio with 22 dead just today.


Instead of claiming America (a nation with just over 300 million people) is in decline (a totally assinine statement by the way) and posted something along the lines of what China and India (countries with over 1 billion people who have recently jettisoned statism, and found prosperity by emulating Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, and Taiwan) are contributing to the global warming/ pollution problem, maybe, just maybe, someone would take you serious. . .

Bush was right to remove us from Clintons Kyoto treaty . . .And all the other treaties that idiot persued and signed.
 

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