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One Atheist's Holiday Season

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2003 10:46 pm
And the wise men with red nosed camels.
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Eva
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2003 10:47 pm
Or maybe the wise men with a pack of Camels.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2003 11:05 pm
Yayyy, on the random giving, JL, I understand completely. Love to you both at ... ta da... New Year's.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2003 11:15 pm
...someday, In the far future, all these traditions will be considered pagan rituals
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2003 11:54 pm
They are now, by some of us.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 05:50 am
There is a great deal of the pagan in all of our holidays - But, so what? Does that mean people could no longer have fun and get together if it were broadly recognized? I think there will always be Scrooges and Grinches and most of the rest of us.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 11:13 am
I'm not antagonistic to the pagan in rituals myself.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 11:18 am
We are, after all, all ritualistic animals. Wink
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 12:06 pm
Humans need traditions to hold society together.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 12:26 pm
truth
C.I., I have never seen, in all the anthropological literature I'm familiar with, any reference to our species as "the ritualistic animal" (symbol making animal, tool making animal, yes, but not ritual making and performing animal). You are obviously right, and you've got the copyright on the concept.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 12:28 pm
truth
Love back to you, Osso.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 12:38 pm
And to all of us!
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 12:46 pm
truth
Yes, Tiny Tim. Very Happy
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 12:50 pm
Did he dance through tulips? Me, I'd just pull up a chair among the tulips..
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 04:25 pm
truth
How utterly lazy. I like that.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 04:28 pm
truth
That Edgar's amazing: he doesn't believe in the Christian God, but he believes in Santa Claus. I was once asked by a Mexican peasant if gringos believe in the saints. I answered, "Well, in Santa Claus, yes." I told her I was joking afterwards.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 05:50 pm
I once wrote a tale in which the ghost of long dead Scrooge teams up with Santa Claus to change one cretin's heart. To me, these two creations are as real as anyone, in many ways, and it has little to do with conventional religious belief.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 05:57 pm
truth
I understand and I agree. Ho, ho, ho, ho...humbug.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 06:17 pm
JLN, With a deeper voice like this, ho, ho, ho, ho....
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 06:26 pm
truth
HA, HA, HA, Ha, Ha, ha, ha, ha, wimper.
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