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I just wanted to know what u guys think about this

 
 
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 07:00 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
"what about orielly?"

Mixed feelings. He's on the right side, but some of his behaviors are irritating. He needs to get better at concealing his conceit. I guess that's my main complaint -- he's too egotistical. Hannity is a better representative of the conservative cause. He fights like hell without bragging.
trappedbyparties
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 07:52 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
I used to think i was a lib when i was younger. The more i figured out what libs stood for, the more i realized i was not one. Then i thought, well that must make me a republican, well the more i found out what republicans stood for, the more i realized i was not one. So where does that leave me, right smack dab in the middle. Then i learned about the independent parties. That's were i found the political beliefs that most fit myself. Of course i do slide a little more to the right on most issues. When it really comes down to it....vote for whoever best represents you and your personal beliefs. And try to have some fun now and then too, don't let your life be consumed in only polotics. True, politics are an important part of our lives and our futures, but keep in mind, you need to live life as well as save it. About the illegals, I don't know where geraldo got his statistics but here in houston, the crime rate has gone up tremendously, The larger number of illegal immigrants not to mention the refugees from katrina, it all plays a part in it. The largest number of crimes commited here "statisticly" is by criminal aliens and katrina refugees, that's not to say that all of them are commiting crimes, other than illegaly entering our country.(the criminal aliens) Anyways, the fact is, no that particular case was not about the person was legally here or not. But there is a completely difrent "culture" or way of life in mexico than there is here in the U.S. Mexico is a very corrupt government wich is why it is important for them to learn our laws and our culture before they are citizens.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 08:07 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;13701 wrote:
"what about orielly?"

Mixed feelings. He's on the right side, but some of his behaviors are irritating. He needs to get better at concealing his conceit. I guess that's my main complaint -- he's too egotistical. Hannity is a better representative of the conservative cause. He fights like hell without bragging.


Im not going to argue with you about if he's on the "right" side or not but in my oppinion he is quite arrogant. I saw another clip where he was talking about a sex-abuse victim, who was kidnapped at age 11 and finally found at age 15, and he said he enjoyed it how he didn't have to go to school, no responsibility. Also the whole sexual harrasment lawsuit kind of creepd me out.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 08:08 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
You didn't have to reveal your age for us to know. Certain points of your arguement I can tell come from inexperience and from what you were taught to recite. The reason you may win debates with your friends does not make your argument fact, you are armed with information. Which in the wrong hands can be very dangerious and in the right hands be very fulfilling. If your friends were similarly armed you would find the debate quit different. Just like i'm sure you found our PM conversation different. Did you think you won that discussion? Personally i think i had you on the ropes from the start.
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Also if I make any grammer mistake or misquote something, it will be turned onto me as an insult.

I doubt any one will correct your grammar and if some one does it IMO it won't be a repug. I've had dozens try and correct my grammar and spelling, not one of them was a repuglican. Personal attacks are not allowed hear, i and a few other mods here police the site for such things, if we miss something or something offends you or cause's you distress you let someone know, and if we feel you have appropriate cause we will take care of it for you.
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I appreciate advice but I dont want any "You'll grow out of it." crap like its a bad acne problem.

One undenyable fact is. We have all been where you are at. For the most part, we have all made progressions from our political starting points. That's the deal with politics. If your dead set on having one point of view, IMO you are doomed. If you stick around here long enough, i know you will learn what we mean. It is not and we are not trying to demean you by saying "You may grow out of it" We were all once you. And when you are our age you will look back to where you have been with the same thought to a person you know is just starting out. Politics is an ideoligy that is not carved in stone. Not for a reasonable person of which you sound like. By reasonable i mean, if in a debate you feel yourself proved wrong you will learn from this mistake and move on. From this point your perception has changed, or should have. If not then your claim : "I doubt illl be changing my screen name (lol)." in fact will be true. I for one think we will have very revealing debates.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 04:52 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;13784 wrote:
You didn't have to reveal your age for us to know. Certain points of your arguement I can tell come from inexperience and from what you were taught to recite. The reason you may win debates with your friends does not make your argument fact, you are armed with information. Which in the wrong hands can be very dangerious and in the right hands be very fulfilling. If your friends were similarly armed you would find the debate quit different. Just like i'm sure you found our PM conversation different. Did you think you won that discussion? Personally i think i had you on the ropes from the start.

I doubt any one will correct your grammar and if some one does it IMO it won't be a repug. I've had dozens try and correct my grammar and spelling, not one of them was a repuglican. Personal attacks are not allowed hear, i and a few other mods here police the site for such things, if we miss something or something offends you or cause's you distress you let someone know, and if we feel you have appropriate cause we will take care of it for you.

One undenyable fact is. We have all been where you are at. For the most part, we have all made progressions from our political starting points. That's the deal with politics. If your dead set on having one point of view, IMO you are doomed. If you stick around here long enough, i know you will learn what we mean. It is not and we are not trying to demean you by saying "You may grow out of it" We were all once you. And when you are our age you will look back to where you have been with the same thought to a person you know is just starting out. Politics is an ideoligy that is not carved in stone. Not for a reasonable person of which you sound like. By reasonable i mean, if in a debate you feel yourself proved wrong you will learn from this mistake and move on. From this point your perception has changed, or should have. If not then your claim : "I doubt illl be changing my screen name (lol)." in fact will be true. I for one think we will have very revealing debates.


okay im closing down my account. I came here to debate politics. Not my point of view and how im going to change to the "good guys." This crap isn't going to stop so ill find another debate site.

bye everyone
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 05:03 pm
@Pinochet73,
Adios. Vaya con Dios.:headbang:
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 07:48 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
Asta la wego. Little did young Luke know, he was in fact debating. For postarity maybe i should post our PM conversation?
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 04:57 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
Yes , do that .
He needs to learn that winning isn't everything , losing can be a learning experience if handled correctly.
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trappedbyparties
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 09:36 pm
@Pinochet73,
What is wrong with this youngster, it must be this "no competition" Bullcrap going on in our school systems now a days. I'm going to hate it when my two sons get into junior high and start playing school sports. I want my children to earn a win, to try to succeed, to be the best they can possibly be....wait none if this is the point really. All of this is a whole other thread. Anyways good luck to you and keep your mind open, when you don't have a willingness to lose and learn you will not get anywhere. I have been wrong a few times on here, mostly for anoyance purposes....But without being wrong, being right loses it's meaning.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 07:51 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
Good luck. I hope you learn a thing or two about what you're interested in. No matter where you go, someone's going to be there who's going to tell you the truth.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 08:35 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
Personally, I think 'debate' is a bunch of useless hogwash. What's important is winning an argument any way you can, when it really counts. Persuasion is infinitely more important that playing some dumb logic-game with fake rules. Life itself doesn't adhere to any such rules.
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markx15
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 08:47 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
If neither side convinces the other than who won?
Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 04:13 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
As I said to IADB in a PM , debate is a form of education . True debaters learn all they can about both sides of the issue in order to better substantiate their arguments , if they don't or WON"T , they will lose every time .
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 04:27 pm
@Curmudgeon,
Curmudgeon;13998 wrote:
As I said to IADB in a PM , debate is a form of education . True debaters learn all they can about both sides of the issue in order to better substantiate their arguments , if they don't or WON"T , they will lose every time .
That was the point i was trying to get at before he got mad.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 04:29 pm
@markx15,
markx15;13958 wrote:
If neither side convinces the other than who won?
He got a little convincing, that is why he left. The other part was just the excuse.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 05:25 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
This whole PM thing is confusing me. Is that another reason why he(or she, not sure of gender) left?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 06:17 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
For some reason, young Luke thought debate should be conducted through Private Messages i guess. I don't think it was a reason to leave, but who knows. He initiated a conversation with me about Ann Coulter. He wrote that Ann had called edwards a faggot. I quoted what she said and asked him to point out where she said that? Of course he couldn't. I asked him why he would lie about such a thing. It was either that or he didn't consciously know his information wasn't correct. I asked, and he said he knew the difference. So i was forced to believe he was deliberately misleading the story and called him on it. I thought i might of been hard for a teenager but evidently he took offence in that too?
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 07:28 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
I was going to say exactly what you said in your last sentence until I read it. She seemed like she was just saying a lot of propaganda or things she was just told and didn't pursue objectively at all. It's nice to see that she's that age and interested in politics and everything, but still.

I wonder if she realized I had an Ann Coulter signature too, 'cause I'm guessing that's the reason for the PM. I had a pretty polite conversation with her. Sheseemed pretty cordial and accepting and apologizing until the end, despite the talking points.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 12:55 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
The claim that "I was captain of our debate team in college", which a colleague of mine used to frequently make, tickled my peachfuzz. So what? What do she want -- a bolo-badge, or something more 'personal'? Dunno.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2007 07:29 pm
@Pinochet73,
Will everyone please calm down! I took a break from this site because I needed a time out from all of this constant bickering (A.K.A. debating). Anyway I am back so please relax.
 

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