Gun Control

@Drakej,

Drakej;39003 wrote:

In a perfect world no one would need a gun. Hell in a perfect world we wouldn't need a gun when our country called on us. But the sad matter is that there are horrible people in this world and that is that.

You must remember that you give up a portion of one right. You give them all up.

we all have to give up something ..

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@AMERICAFIRST cv,

I don't agree AMERICAFIRST. We are the only country that allows it's citizens to own hand guns. If you want to keep that right you can't give up anything like the Patriot Act The government grows and grows and sooner or later it will yield to NATO which wants us unarmed. And NATO wants more. You might be shocked what is up for grabs.
I know 5 children and the whole family things with a home takes a lot of time. So I understand how many executive orders and other things are happening that you might not know of. Do a search of executive orders and look into these matters.
One is Bush, he says he is for guns. Yet he backed his last Att. General in doing just that to take our guns away.. As did many democrats.

Take your pick to read. executive orders - Yahoo! Search Results

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@AMERICAFIRST cv,

AMERICAFIRST;39028 wrote:

we all have to give up something ..

Negative.

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@92b16vx,

What is that twice today we agree. Very good I think. :peace:

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@mlurp,

I think y'all might of misunderstood me and I just post it wrong, as a father and vet I had to give up alot thats all I mean, but now think about this,there are more military train vet in this country than there as ever been in the history of America, we do not fire upon each other, the military will not come and take our weapons, i would not have attack americans when I was in the Army, and I don't believe they will today.if bush wants our guns he will to come and get them.

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@AMERICAFIRST cv,

They can have my guns no problem they get each one bullets first!

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@AMERICAFIRST cv,

AMERICAFIRST;39120 wrote:

I think y'all might of misunderstood me and I just post it wrong, as a father and vet I had to give up alot thats all I mean, but now think about this,there are more military train vet in this country than there as ever been in the history of America, we do not fire upon each other, the military will not come and take our weapons, i would not have attack americans when I was in the Army, and I don't believe they will today.if bush wants our guns he will to come and get them.

I guess you have already forgotten about the National Guard, Sheriff, and Blackwater confiscating legally owned firearms in New Orleans.

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@92b16vx,

92b16vx;39131 wrote:

I guess you have already forgotten about the National Guard, Sheriff, and Blackwater confiscating legally owned firearms in New Orleans.

Never heard anything about that,,btw what this about blackwater??

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@AMERICAFIRST cv,

AMERICAFIRST;39135 wrote:

Never heard anything about that,,btw what this about blackwater??

Blackwater is a gun for hire security firm that has close ties to the Bush administration, that locks them multi-million dollar contracts like security work in Iraq. They were dispatched to N.O. to "help" after Katrina.

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@92b16vx,

Unfortunatly during the disaster situation in New Orleans it became necessary to disarm some of the bad guys that were abusing the circumstances to further themselves. Since they could not indentify each criminal they disarmed all they could.
Meanwhile Americans were without everything 4 days long and dying as if they lived in a third world country. While Bush, had a vacation. He purposely let the people sit a suffer, it is my opinion that he did that because the majority of the population was poor black people. Neat and tidy way to comit genocide, Excuses excuses, that was what he had for lack of help resources. Germany offered the first day to aid New Orleans sending help personel food and water. Bush said no and let them sit 3 days more, the Bastard.
We as a country are not capable of properly handling these types of disasters
The problem is coming, these natural disasters are going to be more frequent and more catastophic in the future. There will be hurricanes where we never had them before, tornados the same story. Floods, Drowts, mud slides, volcanic eruptions, earth quakes also, where they are usually not happening. Our enemies from other lands are nothing compared to mother nature.

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@92b16vx,

92b16vx;39139 wrote:

Blackwater is a gun for hire security firm that has close ties to the Bush administration, that locks them multi-million dollar contracts like security work in Iraq. They were dispatched to N.O. to "help" after Katrina.

I see them on the news in iraq, hell them boys would their asses shot up in these parts, I see no reason for them to be in N.O , the Guard and the cops yes, btw wasn't they going after crooks and not an army?

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@tvsej,

tvsej;39141 wrote:

Unfortunatly during the disaster situation in New Orleans it became necessary to disarm some of the bad guys that were abusing the circumstances to further themselves. Since they could not indentify each criminal they disarmed all they could.
Meanwhile Americans were without everything 4 days long and dying as if they lived in a third world country. While Bush, had a vacation. He purposely let the people sit a suffer, it is my opinion that he did that because the majority of the population was poor black people. Neat and tidy way to comit genocide, Excuses excuses, that was what he had for lack of help resources. Germany offered the first day to aid New Orleans sending help personel food and water. Bush said no and let them sit 3 days more, the Bastard.
We as a country are not capable of properly handling these types of disasters
The problem is coming, these natural disasters are going to be more frequent and more catastophic in the future. There will be hurricanes where we never had them before, tornados the same story. Floods, Drowts, mud slides, volcanic eruptions, earth quakes also, where they are usually not happening. Our enemies from other lands are nothing compared to mother nature.

That the goverment for you,N.O should had been repair long before the storm hit...color is not the point many people die there.

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@AMERICAFIRST cv,

AMERICAFIRST;39147 wrote:

That the goverment for you,N.O should had been repair long before the storm hit...color is not the point many people die there.

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@tvsej,

tvsej;39160 wrote:

That the same way they treat the vets here..

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@Drakej,

How the government responded to N.O. in regards to confiscation of weapons was wrong. I am sorry but if you are legally allowed to own posses and carry a firearm they have no right what so ever to take them away for "your own good" Screw that. I am not sure what there state law says about protection of property but if it is any thing close to Washington States then they have a RIGHT as a citizen to defend there property. Plus everyone that had there gun taking will more then likely never see them again. I have seen pictures of the "storage" containers they used. Thousands of firearms are now in ruins. From Glocks to Civil War era black powder firearms. All of them rusted to nothing.

I agree that N.O. was handled all wrong, but when was the last time FEMA and other government agencies actually had to act when something this bad happened? Maybe we should blame some of the local officials for dropping the ball as well.

And to those who said we have to give up something. This is what is wrong with America. I will not simply move because my neighbor hood is going down the hole. That is what starts it. Maybe its time we all took a good hard look at our selves. Maybe we should start holding our elected officials to the standards they promised us when they where elected. We are getting lazy. We all decide that instead of standing up for the neighbor hood you grew up in, the home your grandfather may have built with his bare hands you are going to throw it away to someone that does not deserve to walk on the same side of the street as you.

Stand up for your self. Have some pride in your community, your state, your country. Over the years people have / do fight and die for you. For this country, for your RIGHTS. Do something for them. Stand up and fight back. I am not saying with guns, I am not saying with bats. But stand up for your self and your community.

I have said it over and over. This whole matter isn't about guns for me. It is about someone taking away my rights. We don't take the KKK's rights away to publish "White is Right For Dummies" do we? Nope, and guess what race crimes kill just as real. We don't tell others that they must be Christan or they must leave either. So please do not tell me that I am not allowed to own a firearm.

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@tvsej,

A-men. Well put.

tvsej;39141 wrote:

Unfortunatly during the disaster situation in New Orleans it became necessary to disarm some of the bad guys that were abusing the circumstances to further themselves. Since they could not indentify each criminal they disarmed all they could.
Meanwhile Americans were without everything 4 days long and dying as if they lived in a third world country. While Bush, had a vacation. He purposely let the people sit a suffer, it is my opinion that he did that because the majority of the population was poor black people. Neat and tidy way to comit genocide, Excuses excuses, that was what he had for lack of help resources. Germany offered the first day to aid New Orleans sending help personel food and water. Bush said no and let them sit 3 days more, the Bastard.
We as a country are not capable of properly handling these types of disasters
The problem is coming, these natural disasters are going to be more frequent and more catastophic in the future. There will be hurricanes where we never had them before, tornados the same story. Floods, Drowts, mud slides, volcanic eruptions, earth quakes also, where they are usually not happening. Our enemies from other lands are nothing compared to mother nature.

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@mlurp,

What it is about is the fact the first response by the Federal Government was to have it's own Army in place disarming the civilian population. That means a lot to me. I have more weapons than I can shoot at once and I would never take from another. And defend the those in need. Without taking life. I'm good enough to hit the leg, with all my weapons. And have a police officer up the block a pilot for the KC-35 Tanker across the street. And 3 veterns on the block. And what about the many Reserve Veterns from the same communities. You don't need worry. I am sure 98% of them are armed, ready and have a code of conduct most civilians will never understand. Some pay the price others play. Who is a player?

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@mlurp,

Here's the law for gun control, and it is not open to interpretation:

"All citizens of the United States, having not been lawfully convicted of a violent felony have the right to own, carry, and when necessary use any and all weapons which, absent human use, can cause no harm to another citizen's life, liberty, or property."

This means, knives, pistols, shotguns, military assault rifles, machine guns, rockets, AA pieces, even tanks if you can afford one. Only nuclear, biological, chemical should be REGULATED, since it harms others' rights to life, liberty, and property without anybody actually "using" them.

The second amendment is pretty clear, "shall not be infringed".

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@Freeman15,

Thanks for the info. And the total absents of reality. Do you think those with the power care about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights and anything else when they are bringing in the New World Order, which will have a replacement for all our old rules laws and Bill of Rights.
Stop watching reality TV and get a grip on reality.

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@mlurp,

mlurp;39300 wrote:

Thanks for the info. And the total absents of reality. Do you think those with the power care about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights and anything else when they are bringing in the New World Order, which will have a replacement for all our old rules laws and Bill of Rights.
Stop watching reality TV and get a grip on reality.

No they don't, that's why we HAVE to defend our right to keep and bear arms. The RKBA wasn't written into the Constitution to protect weekend hunters, paper punchers and skeet shooters, it was written to insure that the PEOPLE have the power nescessary to defend themselves from tyranny, period, end of story. Why do you think that big government RINOs, and socialist democrats all support extreme gun control? An unarmed populace is easier to subjegate(sic).

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