Obama gives up on defending Wright "That's Enough"

I never said I'd do anything, now did I? Show me ANYWHERE where I said I'd drop by. You offered your address, I accepted. Nothing more. If you can show me exactly where I said I would visit you, please do.

You're again trying to inject what you think is the truth to fit your own little chunk of the world. That eliminates your objectivity.

You got snookered. It's that simple.

I never said I'd do anything, now did I?

post 21-you-I will fight to make sure that we aren't thrown into the dark age... again.


post 22-me-When do you start?

post 24-you-When I see you.


post 52-me-Would you like my address?

post 27-you-I'd love it.

Power or fun?

In my opinion, this is a threat. I afforded infomation to assist you in attaining your goal. I'm still waiting big dog?

Whatsamatter, giving up, calling for the aid of a mod? Yo cerro taco bell, that's about as big as your bite.

Drop it hell, you had the ball and dropped it, some call it spineless, what do you call it. The thread is there for every one to see including your other tolerant lib friends. They can decide for themselves or maybe they already have and that's why you cry for help?

for all you Fox Haters out there notice that when Obama finally does the right thing they gave it press

Let's see CNN do the same for Bush

But HELLO, change isn't always good.

I social engineered your address right out of you, homeslice. Now, do you want to really understand why what you did is colossally stupid?

Hang on tight.

With your address, you give a 'person' something very important: a range. Thirty miles or so with the target address slightly off center towards the most densely populated area. The first thing you do at that point is find out what telephone exchanges (prefix numbers... your first three digits) serve that area. In this case, there are six. I will not list them. At that point you wardial. There are ways around the attention this draws, I will not disclose this information. You'll come up with a good number of computers in that area connected via modem (bonus points for modem servers and Shivas), and chances are you're gonna be in one of em. Doctor's offices, pharmacies, car repair shops, little local shops with club BBSes... the list is rather extensive. Nailing one of the bigger ones will usually render, when combined with an address: phone numbers, SSNs, credit card numbers, routing and account numbers (automatic withdrawal is teh win!)... the list is once again rather extensive.


At the very least, you're buying some kid porno mags. At worst, your identity shows up in a terror investigation and in all cases you won't know a thing about it until it's all over.

This isn't a world of "Meet me at my house and we'll see who's a badass!" anymore... we're not squawking through CB mics. Technology changes the whole ballgame.

But, I'm a law abiding, tax paying citizen and would never do such things.

Just to toss in some political chit-chat in here... this is why a lot of privacy advocates and people with extensive computer backgrounds (let's call them "liberals") are against things such as RealID, warrantless wiretapping and data mining.


*Yes, lots of systems out there still use the good old fashioned POTS line and modem. The majority of credit card transaction verifications and ATM services happen over POTS.


Now, mods, can we clean this mess up? Hillary just got sunk, Obama's been challenged to debates by McCain... it's about *** time the dems chose so we can get on with this!

I social engineered your address right out of you, homeslice. Now, do you want to really understand why what you did is colossally stupid?

Hang on tight.

With your address, you give a 'person' something very important: a range. Thirty miles or so with the target address slightly off center towards the most densely populated area. The first thing you do at that point is find out what telephone exchanges (prefix numbers... your first three digits) serve that area. In this case, there are six. I will not list them. At that point you wardial. There are ways around the attention this draws, I will not disclose this information. You'll come up with a good number of computers in that area connected via modem (bonus points for modem servers and Shivas), and chances are you're gonna be in one of em. Doctor's offices, pharmacies, car repair shops, little local shops with club BBSes... the list is rather extensive. Nailing one of the bigger ones will usually render, when combined with an address: phone numbers, SSNs, credit card numbers, routing and account numbers (automatic withdrawal is teh win!)... the list is once again rather extensive.

At the very least, you're buying some kid porno mags. At worst, your identity shows up in a terror investigation and in all cases you won't know a thing about it until it's all over.

Just to toss in some political chit-chat in here... this is why a lot of privacy advocates and people with extensive computer backgrounds (let's call them "liberals") are against things such as RealID, warrantless wiretapping and data mining.

Stupid is the person that uses it. Luckly you lack the spine.

If you wanted my phone number, why didn't you just ask?

No wonder you were a person of interest! Honest you call yourself?

Do you honestly think people don't already realize this?

Obama's mob doesn't.

prove it.

Since I am accusing them of ignorance, the accused must provide evidence that they have a deeper understanding of politics than the catch phrases they yell at rallies for Obama, because the catch phrases are all we hear, not the supposed deep thought processes behind them.

Since I am accusing them of ignorance, the accused must provide evidence that they have a deeper understanding of politics than the catch phrases they yell at rallies for Obama, because the catch phrases are all we hear, not the supposed deep thought processes behind them.