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US Surge in Iraq working, Liberals still want to cut and run

 
 
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 04:25 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32287 wrote:
You sound like a lib dem on the ticket. Retreat before it succeeds.


You sound like every other parroting chickenhawk that has never been to war, and likes to sit in your chair waving a flag stroking Bushs balls yelling for more war, but we won't hold that against you.
Red cv
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 05:05 pm
@Silverchild79,
Bush never stood a chance with the Media, if this war was allowed to be played out on the ground instead of the in media using total and brute force the enemy would be in Heaven eating grapes and raping little girls. We can't play by standard rules of engagement when dealing with an enemy this evil. Slapping bombs on unsuspecting children and murdering them in the name of their Demon. Dropping leaflets to warn the enemy we are coming is madness, if we fought this way during world war two Europe would be speaking German. On hindsight our forfathers died so they were free to become Muslims and speak Arabic.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 08:49 am
@Red cv,
Red;32308 wrote:
Bush never stood a chance with the Media, if this war was allowed to be played out on the ground instead of the in media using total and brute force the enemy would be in Heaven eating grapes and raping little girls. We can't play by standard rules of engagement when dealing with an enemy this evil. Slapping bombs on unsuspecting children and murdering them in the name of their Demon. Dropping leaflets to warn the enemy we are coming is madness, if we fought this way during world war two Europe would be speaking German. On hindsight our forfathers died so they were free to become Muslims and speak Arabic.


bush shouldnt have invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 !
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 09:13 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;32296 wrote:
You sound like every other parroting chickenhawk that has never been to war, and likes to sit in your chair waving a flag stroking Bushs balls yelling for more war, but we won't hold that against you.
Is it a right of passage to have an opinion on our military you must serve. Nope not in a republic. Don't like chickenhawks don't take there money, opps too late.
Quote:
but we won't hold that against you.
Who's we, got a mouse in your pocket? So right after 9/11 all those flags we saw people waving and on most every house, chickenhawks all of them? All those millions that gave to the war effort in WW2, chickenhawks as well. What about your girl, she serve? Or is she a chickenhawk? You mom? Or is it only those who oppose your view are chickenhawks and this includes people who have served sush as are President, very telling.
Another question, because you have prior service do you think this should give you more sayso when opinions are concerned about our military? Is a citizen soldier higher then a regular citizen and if so does this follow him through retirement from service? I know all the answers to these as do most all citizens whether they be soldiers or not. But for some reason you think your better then that, why?
carryabigstick
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2007 07:58 pm
@Silverchild79,
It's not an issue about whether we are winning or not. I have issue with the fact that we went into Iraq under false pretences and we are trying to police the globe. It's not about winning. It's about minding our own business.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2007 08:00 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;32396 wrote:
Or is it only those who oppose your view are chickenhawks and this includes people who have served sush as are President, very telling.


Nope, just little girlie men too scared to serve themselves but hide behind the internet calling for more war.


Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political epithet used in the United States to criticize a politician, bureaucrat, or commentator who strongly supports a war or other military action, but has never personally been in a war, especially if that person actively avoided military service when of draft age.

The term is meant to indicate that the person in question is cowardly or hypocritical for personally avoiding combat in the past while advocating that others go to war in the present. Generally, the implication is that "chickenhawks" lack the experience, judgment, or moral standing to make decisions about going to war.

Generation Chickenhawk: With The College Republicans

Pay attention to the absolute ignorance they are spewing, it's comical.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 09:28 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;34430 wrote:
Nope, just little girlie men too scared to serve themselves but hide behind the internet calling for more war.


Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political epithet used in the United States to criticize a politician, bureaucrat, or commentator who strongly supports a war or other military action, but has never personally been in a war, especially if that person actively avoided military service when of draft age.

The term is meant to indicate that the person in question is cowardly or hypocritical for personally avoiding combat in the past while advocating that others go to war in the present. Generally, the implication is that "chickenhawks" lack the experience, judgment, or moral standing to make decisions about going to war.

Generation Chickenhawk: With The College Republicans

Pay attention to the absolute ignorance they are spewing, it's comical.
Yup that is the definition of it. Falling under it i do not. Our military faught for our right to do and say what ever we want. Spewing ignorance is legal. You've done it a few times yourself. I and other tax payers paid you for the service you provided. But for some reason you think your entitled to more and you service some how put you ahead of everyone else, why? You didn't have much to say when you were earning combat pay? You have an opinion now, why because it doesn't cost you? Your like one of the retired generals who waited till after there service to say they had a problem, and you think i'm a coward, LOL.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 09:58 am
@Silverchild79,
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Your like one of the retired generals who waited till after there service to say they had a problem


Actually a few generals were "retired" because of their opinion of Iraq.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 10:24 am
@Silverchild79,
I noticed how you didn't disagree.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 10:50 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;32296 wrote:
You sound like every other parroting chickenhawk that has never been to war, and likes to sit in your chair waving a flag stroking Bushs balls yelling for more war, but we won't hold that against you.


As a tax-paying American citizen, he has every right to do so. Everyone in uniform works for him.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 10:52 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;34478 wrote:
Actually a few generals were "retired" because of their opinion of Iraq.


No one who has earned his/her military retirement should be expected to discard it over a disagreement with the Commander-in-Chief. People have families to worry about, and as well as old-age. That's a totally insane demand to put on anyone in uniform.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 11:00 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;34494 wrote:
No one who has earned his/her military retirement should be expected to discard it over a disagreement with the Commander-in-Chief. People have families to worry about, and as well as old-age. That's a totally insane demand to put on anyone in uniform.


Ahhjh ignoring real life good for you, keep it up.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 01:16 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;34501 wrote:
Ahhjh ignoring real life good for you, keep it up.


It's just a fact of life. Who in his right mind would throw away 30 years of military service in protest of a presidential decision???? Gimme a frig'n break. I'd just retire. Screw that noise. I'll let you, Scooby, Aaron and FUA die on that sword, if you ever qualify for a healthy pension plan of some sort. Of course Scoob is already retired -- living off the dole, as he and all his fellow citizens do in Socialist Scotland.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 02:25 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;34527 wrote:
It's just a fact of life. Who in his right mind would throw away 30 years of military service in protest of a presidential decision???? Gimme a frig'n break. I'd just retire. Screw that noise. I'll let you, Scooby, Aaron and FUA die on that sword, if you ever qualify for a healthy pension plan of some sort. Of course Scoob is already retired -- living off the dole, as he and all his fellow citizens do in Socialist Scotland.


LOL ive got a long time to go before i retire pino ! what do your mean by socialist pino ? i certainly wouldnt call the government here socialist,in the true sense of the word,not by a long shot.
Red cv
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 03:11 pm
@Silverchild79,
Well Al Qaeda is in Iraq now so Bush saw into the future or was smart enough to know we could gather up the stray Terrorists from Afghanistan in Iraq. Here's what the locals think:

Link: for page two,

Iraq's Sunni tribes began turning against al Qaeda when the largely foreign-run terrorist organization tried to arrange forced marriages with local women to secure their foothold in the country, according to a top counterterrorism adviser to the U.S. coalition in Iraq.



Australian Col. David Kilcullen, who just completed a tour as senior counterinsurgency aide to U.S. commander Gen. David H. Petraeus in Baghdad, said in an extensive analysis that the decision by the Sunni tribes to break with al Qaeda could prove a major — if unanticipated — boost to President Bush's surge strategy in the country.



"The uprising represents very significant political progress toward reconciliation at the grass-roots level, and major security progress in marginalizing extremists and reducing civilian deaths," Col. Kilcullen wrote Wednesday in the military blog Small Wars Journal (http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog).



With an estimated 30,000 Sunni fighters in Iraq now battling their former al Qaeda allies, "the tribal revolt is arguably the most significant change in the Iraqi operating environment for several years," he added in his entry titled "Anatomy of a Tribal Revolt."



Mr. Bush has talked repeatedly about the improving security situation in Anbar province and other Sunni strongholds, saying the shift enhances the prospect for both security and political gains from the military surge.



"The momentum is now on our side," Mr. Bush said this week in a speech to the American Legion national convention in Reno, Nev. "The surge is seizing the initiative from the enemy and handing it to the Iraqi people."



But critics in Congress and in the antiwar movement warn that the Sunni shift may be temporary, and could create its own problems for the embattled government in Baghdad.



Brian Katulis, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, said yesterday the apparent decline of violence in some Iraqi communities could just be the result of sectarian cleansing that has driven Iraqi Sunnis and Shi'ites out of formerly mixed communities. War critics have also challenged administration assertions that sectarian killings have gone down in recent months.



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An interesting read on what it's like on the ground, a birds eye view and not from your puter chair.
Link: Michael J. Totten: The Future of Iraq
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 04:29 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;34527 wrote:
It's just a fact of life. Who in his right mind would throw away 30 years of military service in protest of a presidential decision???? Gimme a frig'n break. I'd just retire. Screw that noise. I'll let you, Scooby, Aaron and FUA die on that sword, if you ever qualify for a healthy pension plan of some sort. Of course Scoob is already retired -- living off the dole, as he and all his fellow citizens do in Socialist Scotland.


Oh, I'm retired and "on the dole"....as you put it...perfectly fair and square.
Now I can do what I enjoy, write and make music (which I'm pretty good at, by the way)...not the life of Riley, but I'm happy.
What? You don't think I deserve it? I'm not worthy? I'm a tax payer, been all my life, and I'm not entitled? But you are? Kiss my grits..and bite a hamburger...if you get my meaning.
The damn Republicans messed up Medicare...messed up the drug plan, which helps no one but the drug companies and the HMO's...George Bush never served "active duty" in "harms' way....yet he can send Americans off to die, and worse, treat the ones who returned maimed and disabled like 2nd and 3rd class citizens...and he can talk???? Somebody ought to do something...and I'll just leave it at that.........
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 05:12 pm
@Silverchild79,
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George Bush never served "active duty" in "harms' way....yet he can send Americans off to die, and worse, treat the ones who returned maimed and disabled like 2nd and 3rd class citizens...and he can talk????
YUP!!
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 05:22 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;34579 wrote:
YUP!!


Better...Duh!
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 05:23 pm
@Silverchild79,
I'm white remember, we day YUP.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 05:35 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;34592 wrote:
I'm white remember, we day YUP.


No you're not! Tell the truth.
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