Al Qaeda stronger then it was on Sept 11th?

Al Qaeda is not the entity it once was, but in some respects that makes it more dangerous. It reminds me of the mythical hydra, you cut off it's head and it sprouts two more. Al Qaeda is just as dangerous now, if not more so because it is an entity made up of splinter groups. There is no longer a central authority within the group, no real organization. It has many leaders now and is a much broader, diverse group. Which in turn makes it more dangerous because it is difficult to assess.
Intelligence groups have their work cut out for them, I wish them all the luck, they are gonna need it.

It would strike a deadly blow to AQ if we could kill OBL.
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Bin Laden Dieing would only make him a martyr and MUCH more dangerous the longer he is ALIVE and in hiding, the more time his followers can look at him as a coward

No, it wouldn't. He is probably dead anyway, if not than he is calling shots it's probably from his deathbed, or from a remote cave in the middle of some country Bush is scared to push into in a REAL war aginst those that want to destroy us, don't want to actually piss off anyone that matters, or upset those big money oil contracts, just give em a pass. If he dies, there's ten in line to take his place, kind of says that when we are capturing the "number two and three guy" every other month.

I don't think the old goat is dead. I believe he's about 50 (my age, and I'm not dead......not by a long-shot), which means he still has a lot of life in him. He's probably in Pakistan, which we can't screw with if we want to keep that nuclear power from being overthrown by its Islamic radicals. The rest of what you're saying is conspiracy stuff.:thumbdown: If OBL dies, money trails dry up (not completely, but signficantly) and AQ loses its living icon. It's too late to worry about making Islamic martyrs. We've been doing that since 2001. :headbang:

Nothing "conspiracy" about it.We invaded the weakest, most secular nation in the area to secure our presence in the oil rich middle east, and nothing else. The administration wrapped it in a biscuit, and we sopped up the gravy with it. The simple fact that what I have been saying all along about not being able to fight an asymmetric enemy that has no bases, or organization, only a lose leadership, and missions based on faith in a religion, has come to light is enough. If they were serious about winning a war on terror, they can now write a book on how NOT to do it.

Bush, Dick and I agreed, long ago, that if anybody was right on all this mind-boggling chit, it was you. Good job, Killer.:thumbup:

Tell me then, what exactly did we accomplish if this new report is true? Tell me exactly how conventional warfare, against an asymmetric enemy that has no bases, or organization, only a loose leadership, and missions based on faith in a religion is going to play out? How did it play out in 'Nam? Which to say the least was only mildly similar as far as guerilla warfare compared to the global chaos of hit and run (or die) attacks being used?

We are fighting a protracted counter-guerrilla war, in a distant, hostile land, to secure national interests. History is chuck-full of these scenarios. In fact, they're 'old-hat'. This isn't the first, nor will it be the last. We have to hunker down, fight it out, and do the best we can. At some point, we'll probably have to leave, after re-installing a tyrant who can hold the mess together. He'll be our boy at first. What happens later, no one will know. Israel and oil make this counter-guerrilla war the most complicated we've ever fought. Don't look for easy solutions to this one. Their aren't any. Sorry. None of us has the answer.:no:

Nothing "conspiracy" about it.We invaded the weakest, most secular nation in the area to secure our presence in the oil rich middle east, and nothing else. The administration wrapped it in a biscuit, and we sopped up the gravy with it. The simple fact that what I have been saying all along about not being able to fight an asymmetric enemy that has no bases, or organization, only a lose leadership, and missions based on faith in a religion, has come to light is enough. If they were serious about winning a war on terror, they can now write a book on how NOT to do it.

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We all know it's for the oil, and not the Iraqi people, no matter how many human interest stories they show with cute little Iraqi kids playing with G.I.s.

Murderer or liberator?