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Terrorists warn US soldier to stop looking for their missing comrades

 
 
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 06:14 am
@Silverchild79,
"Ok, a question for you Pinochet senior. What do you think of me in general, and most Muslims in the west, Malaysia, Indonesia, China and every other similar states?"

I think you're human beings with inalienable rights, along with the rest of us. BUT, you have to work harder to earn our trust by policing your own better. You're not even trying, presently. You should be the first to silence the nut-jobs amongst you who want to kill us. How can anyone with half a brain believe otherwise, given the evil antics of Al Qaeda?
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 10:32 am
@Silverchild79,
So many things to respond too where do I begin, and what am I going to forget. Azmr when did the united states fly a plan into an Afghani turkish or iraqi mud hut? (Yes I know there are more than just mud huts there)

Also as far as MOST Are good people... while I dont get all my information form CNN I did see the 8 differnt COUNTRIES with multiple location screen shots of thousands of Muslims CHEERING the attacks. You can google it and go on you tube to see for yourself.

CIA founded Al Qaida. What a blow to the USA if ANY AL Qaeida operative Made that claim on CNN I wonder why they havent?

The claim of the CIA founding Al Qaueda (It wasnt called al qaueda but it has the same background allegedly) came from Rambo III. Great historical accuracy in that movie LOL
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 06:49 pm
@Silverchild79,
Muslim conspiracy theories are the craziest of all.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 07:37 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;16939 wrote:
The claim of the CIA founding Al Qaueda (It wasnt called al qaueda but it has the same background allegedly) came from Rambo III. Great historical accuracy in that movie LOL


Are you trying to deny the US funding the Muhjahdeen in the 80's?
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Azmr
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 05:00 am
@Silverchild79,
CIA founded Al Qaida. What a blow to the USA if ANY AL Qaeida operative Made that claim on CNN I wonder why they havent?

You do realise that no one needed to know, that just defeats the purpose of birthing an organisation all together.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 08:22 am
@Silverchild79,
And???
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 05:59 pm
@Silverchild79,
Al Qaeda must die. American oligarchs should privately finance something like Operation Phoenix in the Middle East. Since our government is so worried about killing in a kind way, the private sector should get the real job done.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 11:14 am
@Azmr,
Azmr;16487 wrote:

Volunteer:

Dont act like the US is angelic, they never followed the Geneva Convention in Afghanistan and Iraq. Most notably Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo bay, seriously dont talk.


Wasn't acting like the US is angelic. However, Islamist spin on our actions aside, the actions at Abu Ghraib were loose canons.

What is wrong with our actions at Gauntanamo Bay?
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 11:28 am
@Azmr,
Azmr;16544 wrote:
How would you describe repeated bombings of Palestine, mass civilian murders, the destruction of their infrastructure and their way of life and occupying their land and breaking treaties. Please give me an answer other than the suicide bombings which IS revenge, NOT the cause? Israel is ethnic cleansing to occupy more land unlawfully.


There is no Palestine. The Arabs who claim to be Palestinains were given the opportunity to have their own state in 1948 along with Isreal. They chose not to accept. Prior to that there was no Palestinian nation. They have been offered the same many times since. Each time, they or their leaders choose hate of themselves and the Children of Isreal and as a result reap what they sow.

Those areas claimed by the Arabs as Palestine were won by the nation of Isreal in wars for Isreal's survival. The Arab nations that started those wars then complained because they lost territory. When the Arab nations supported continued low intensity warfare in the ensuing decades, Isreal responded and continues to respond with extreme restraint.

Response by Isreal is after an attack by terrorists. Terrorism is a tool of war used by the Arabs. It was relearned and refined in the cold war when they were surrogates of the Soviets.

Isreal does not move into land unless it is to stop attacks from that land. They keep making the mistake of listening to our politicians and giving back land thay have paid for with their lives. Isreal should secure its territory and begin to create buffer zones by taking control of Lebanese, Syrian, Saudi, and Egyptian territory.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 11:43 am
@Azmr,
Azmr;16574 wrote:
Terrorism isnt an object but a fear, you cannot address it, label it etc. It doesnt make sence at all saying that we use terrorism in place of military power, the military power asserts terrorism against the people, hence the revenge which then is again labelled terrorism which is a lie. Its called resistance. What really makes me sick is that people with your intellect thinks that the West can step up to anyones door-step and make it a battlefield, but when the people, the resistance do the same the world stops and screams evil and barbaric.


Terrorism is a tactic.

Terrorism is used by the Arabs and Islamists to cause chaos. They use it against whichever side they believe will react, retaliate and cause more chaos. Out of this chaos, they show up and hand out protection, for a fee.

When the Arabs attempted to change the Geneva Convention to empower terrorists in 1978-79 the US did not ratify the new wording. The new wording allowed terrorists to be considered lawful combatants as long as they had weapons in their hands when the killed someone. After they killed the person and dropped their weapons, they were no longer considered combatants but classified as non-combatants. This didn't make sense to anyone except the people who supported the terrorists. Same as the terrorists' favorite tactic of hiding behind women and children or of using their "religious" buildings as weapons caches. All of these actions violate the Geneva Convention and make those who use these actions unlawful combatants.

Unlawful combatants are murderers who in past wars were shot on sight on the battlefield and not entitled to any other treatment than a burial. When terrorists hide in anyone's home, religious building, or museum the locations and buildings become unprotected under the convention, period. When the terrorists then wet their pants, cry, and complain like sniviling little bullies that someone didn't fight fair, they need to go change their pants and stiffen their upper lip.

The fact that the US chooses to keep these unlawful combatants captive and wring them for information is a bonus for the unlawful combatants. Is the intelligence gained worth the propaganda gained by the other side? So far, the answer seems to be yes.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 06:17 pm
@Silverchild79,
Terrorism is also a weapon. As such, it warrants being utterly smashed on the battlefield. It's a legitimate target.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 06:38 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;17230 wrote:
Terrorism is also a weapon. As such, it warrants being utterly smashed on the battlefield. It's a legitimate target.


Hooya!!
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 08:04 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;17200 wrote:
Terrorism is a tactic.

Terrorism is used by the Arabs and Islamists to cause chaos. They use it against whichever side they believe will react, retaliate and cause more chaos. Out of this chaos, they show up and hand out protection, for a fee.

When the Arabs attempted to change the Geneva Convention to empower terrorists in 1978-79 the US did not ratify the new wording. The new wording allowed terrorists to be considered lawful combatants as long as they had weapons in their hands when the killed someone. After they killed the person and dropped their weapons, they were no longer considered combatants but classified as non-combatants. This didn't make sense to anyone except the people who supported the terrorists. Same as the terrorists' favorite tactic of hiding behind women and children or of using their "religious" buildings as weapons caches. All of these actions violate the Geneva Convention and make those who use these actions unlawful combatants.

Unlawful combatants are murderers who in past wars were shot on sight on the battlefield and not entitled to any other treatment than a burial. When terrorists hide in anyone's home, religious building, or museum the locations and buildings become unprotected under the convention, period. When the terrorists then wet their pants, cry, and complain like sniviling little bullies that someone didn't fight fair, they need to go change their pants and stiffen their upper lip.

The fact that the US chooses to keep these unlawful combatants captive and wring them for information is a bonus for the unlawful combatants. Is the intelligence gained worth the propaganda gained by the other side? So far, the answer seems to be yes.

Great post.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 23 May, 2007 08:10 pm
@Silverchild79,
"Hooya!!"

Navy?
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2007 10:11 am
@Silverchild79,
It's all academic now....they found one of the missing floating in the Euphrates river. He had been shot in the head and neck 6 times.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2007 06:02 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;17285 wrote:
It's all academic now....they found one of the missing floating in the Euphrates river. He had been shot in the head and neck 6 times.


A local Muslim cleric should now 'disappear', only to be seen on the news later, being burned alive. :headbang:
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 28 May, 2007 09:06 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;17243 wrote:
"Hooya!!"

Navy?


USAF with lots of ops & training with Army, Navy & Marines.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 28 May, 2007 09:10 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;17285 wrote:
It's all academic now....they found one of the missing floating in the Euphrates river. He had been shot in the head and neck 6 times.


In case you haven't figured it out, it was academic the moment they were abducted. This is a standard tactic of these people. On the surface, they are not a national force so "they cannot be held accountable" under international law. They count on this as do their national sponsors. Once one of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, or marines is captured, their life is gone. The enemy does not have the infrastructure to care for captives. Keeping a captive alive makes the captors vulnerable to discovery and destruction.

The tactic is to abduct, divert attention and resources to search, provide propaganda, and demoralize the enemy; thereby reducing our will to continue the fight. Their tactic is also strategic. It is working because we have a "if it bleeds it leads" media populated with typists who lean way to the left in their sympathy.

The only saving grace is there is no atheist in a foxhole. Most GIs over there have their noses stuck in the New Testament. This is creating a new generation of Bible believing self-motivated, combat veterans. Eeventually, they'll supplant the politicians we have in the GO ranks today who grew up under the tutelage of Billy and Hilly Clinton.
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Mon 28 May, 2007 10:31 am
@Silverchild79,
Once again its the media thats losing the war...not the incompetant management, not the lack of national committment, not the amateur hour planning or the moronic leadership, of course the decision to wait until now to recruit the tribal sheiks or the decision to dismantle the Iraqi army or the shortage of troops, equipment and men or the budger overruns or the corrupt, imcompetant way the troops were supplied ie haliburton etc..etc etc isn't to blame etc...
This president has prided himslef on ignoring public opinion please tell me how the media with all its faults has made all this happen...If you are going to invade and occupy a country have the courage to do it well and without favortism to friends and friends company's and do it because it is necessary period and with your whole heart or don't do it at all...If you can't persuade the entire country to sign on the dotted line then doble think your decision
My heart goes out to all the men and women serving our country today I hope they all come home intact and are able to celebrate Memorial Day 2008 at home with their families
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 28 May, 2007 11:25 am
@rhopper3,
rhopper3;17989 wrote:
Once again its the media thats losing the war...not the incompetant management, not the lack of national committment, not the amateur hour planning or the moronic leadership, of course the decision to wait until now to recruit the tribal sheiks or the decision to dismantle the Iraqi army or the shortage of troops, equipment and men or the budger overruns or the corrupt, imcompetant way the troops were supplied ie haliburton etc..etc etc isn't to blame etc...


That is not what I was saying and not what I meant. It's all of the above. It's also a lack of common moral ground in our nation. It's a lack of common educational content. It is a lack of common understanding of right, wrong, and indifferent. It's a lack of common understanding of Strategic, operational, and tactical thought.

Why?
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