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here's one for aaron - why blacks should vote for ron paul

 
 
Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2007 10:46 pm
YouTube - RON PAUL: Why Blacks & People Of Color Should Vote For Him

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briansol
 
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Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2007 10:51 pm
@briansol,
wow, just ran into this via a related video....


wtf? lol

YouTube - Niggers For Ron Paul 2008
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2007 11:59 pm
@briansol,



Ooooh, wee....let me head straight to the polls, right now, and pull a lever for Ron Paul.....
Sorry, that was lame...I was not impressed...his argument couldn't have been "weaker"....I really don't have anything against Ron Paul...I am familiar with him, being a Houstonian. He doesn't seem like a "bad guy", although he seems a little "left field"...which is baffling why he is running as a "Republican"...in any event...he is un-electable, because he is too "radical"...just like Gravel, and Kucinich. I don't plan on "wasting my vote"....I will be voting for the Democrat...likely to be Hillary....I sure ain't voting Republican, and you can bet the farm on that one.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 07:12 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41008 wrote:
...he is un-electable,


No, he is not.


Quote:
I don't plan on "wasting my vote"....I will be voting for the Democrat...likely to be Hillary....I sure ain't voting Republican, and you can bet the farm on that one.


Gotta keep those entitlements rolling. Gotta fed those that don't want to fed themselves.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf
of the common good."

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to
government of the few, by the
few, and for the few...... And to replace it with
shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"(We) ..can't just let business as usual go on, and
that means something
has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that
requires people to give up
a little bit of their own ... in order to create this
common ground."

"I certainly think the free-market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what
has become the most
profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are
being watched."

Lenin? Marx? Mao? Nope...

















Hitlery Klinton.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 09:11 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;41025 wrote:
No, he is not.

Yes, he is....Denial is not some river in Egypt. I can understand your passion for the man...but he is not "centrist", and that's what it takes to get elected prez today. Say whatever you will.


Gotta keep those entitlements rolling. Gotta fed those that don't want to fed themselves.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf
of the common good."

"It's time for a new beginning, for an end to
government of the few, by the
few, and for the few...... And to replace it with
shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

"(We) ..can't just let business as usual go on, and
that means something
has to be taken away from some people."

"We have to build a political consensus and that
requires people to give up
a little bit of their own ... in order to create this
common ground."

"I certainly think the free-market has failed."

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what
has become the most
profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are
being watched."

Lenin? Marx? Mao? Nope...


I even understand your obvious contempt for the Dems...but we've had almost 7 yrs of "compassionate conservatism", and look where that has gotten us.
We don't need a Republican that talks like a Dem, anymore than we need a Dem who acts like a Repub...Bloomberg or Gingrich might be viable 3rd party candidates...but Paul doesn't have a snowballs' chance. Sorry.

And Hitlery certainly couldn't possibly be as tragic as Georgie Porgie
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:06 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41037 wrote:
Yes, he is....Denial is not some river in Egypt. I can understand your passion for the man...but he is not "centrist", and that's what it takes to get elected prez today. Say whatever you will.


Ron Paul hits all hte right notes. He is anti-war, pro-America. No hand outs, just the opportunity to make it on your own.

Quote:
I even understand your obvious contempt for the Dems...but we've had almost 7 yrs of "compassionate conservatism", and look where that has gotten us.


No, we haven't, we've had almost seven years of NEOconservatism, and it has almost destroyed our country.

Quote:
We don't need a Republican that talks like a Dem, anymore than we need a Dem who acts like a Repub...Bloomberg or Gingrich might be viable 3rd party candidates...but Paul doesn't have a snowballs' chance. Sorry.


You are ignorant if you think he "talks like a dem", you obviously haven't ever even looked at his platform.

Quote:
And Hitlery certainly couldn't possibly be as tragic as Georgie Porgie


Hitlery will take the government expansion that the Bushrat gave us, and use it to destroy America. It will be a socialist entitlement heaven where no one has to do anything but sit back and blame everyone else for their problems, and the welfarestate checks will roll on in. Disgusting.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:23 am
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;41049 wrote:
Ron Paul hits all hte right notes. He is anti-war, pro-America. No hand outs, just the opportunity to make it on your own.



No, we haven't, we've had almost seven years of NEOconservatism, and it has almost destroyed our country.



You are ignorant if you think he "talks like a dem", you obviously haven't ever even looked at his platform.



Hitlery will take the government expansion that the Bushrat gave us, and use it to destroy America. It will be a socialist entitlement heaven where no one has to do anything but sit back and blame everyone else for their problems, and the welfarestate checks will roll on in. Disgusting.


Yadda, yadda, yadda....and he's still unelectable. get over it.
Truth be told...anything would be an improvement over Bushie...even Paul...but you are fooling yourself if you think he is going to be the Repub nominee.
lancesorbenson
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:39 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41054 wrote:
Yadda, yadda, yadda....and he's still unelectable. get over it.
Truth be told...anything would be an improvement over Bushie...even Paul...but you are fooling yourself if you think he is going to be the Repub nominee.


I love how all of sudden everyone is using this word "unelectable." Seems like it entered the lexicon just a few months ago and now every wanna-be political scientist bandies it around to make them feel like they're really insightful.
lancesorbenson
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:46 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41008 wrote:
Ooooh, wee....let me head straight to the polls, right now, and pull a lever for Ron Paul.....
Sorry, that was lame...I was not impressed...his argument couldn't have been "weaker"....I really don't have anything against Ron Paul...I am familiar with him, being a Houstonian. He doesn't seem like a "bad guy", although he seems a little "left field"...which is baffling why he is running as a "Republican"...in any event...he is un-electable, because he is too "radical"...just like Gravel, and Kucinich. I don't plan on "wasting my vote"....I will be voting for the Democrat...likely to be Hillary....I sure ain't voting Republican, and you can bet the farm on that one.


You live in Texas and you think voting for Hillary or any other Democrat ISN'T "wasting" your vote? All of Texas' electoral votes are going to the Republican, so don't waste your time in November 08. As far as Texas is concerned the Democratic candidate will be "unelectable." You should move to a battleground state if you don't want to "waste" your vote.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 11:17 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41054 wrote:
Yadda, yadda, yadda....and he's still unelectable. get over it.
Truth be told...anything would be an improvement over Bushie...even Paul...but you are fooling yourself if you think he is going to be the Repub nominee.


Knowing that you know nothing about him, other than what you hurd on tha TeeVee, you parroting the word "unelectable" means nothing.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 12:29 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;41063 wrote:
Knowing that you know nothing about him, other than what you hurd on tha TeeVee, you parroting the word "unelectable" means nothing.


what are his realistic chances of winning the republican nomination ?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 01:10 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;41070 wrote:
what are his realistic chances of winning the republican nomination ?


Better than Huckabees, and after Thompsons face first flop in the debate, better than his. Name recognition is a bigger obstacle than issues for him, he's got the issues in the bag.
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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 04:08 pm
@lancesorbenson,
lancesorbenson;41057 wrote:
I love how all of sudden everyone is using this word "unelectable." Seems like it entered the lexicon just a few months ago and now every wanna-be political scientist bandies it around to make them feel like they're really insightful.


When Ron Paul wins not only the nomination but the general election, I will eat my dog's poo....what will you do if he doesn't?
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 04:11 pm
@lancesorbenson,
lancesorbenson;41058 wrote:
You live in Texas and you think voting for Hillary or any other Democrat ISN'T "wasting" your vote? All of Texas' electoral votes are going to the Republican, so don't waste your time in November 08. As far as Texas is concerned the Democratic candidate will be "unelectable." You should move to a battleground state if you don't want to "waste" your vote.


Are you crazy? Everybody has had it with the Republicans...We're so over Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchinson...it's liable to be a Democratic sweep come Nov 08...mark my words...Republicans are political poison.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 04:12 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;41063 wrote:
Knowing that you know nothing about him, other than what you hurd on tha TeeVee, you parroting the word "unelectable" means nothing.


Let's all wait and see, if he gets the Republican nomination....I wouldn't hold my breath for more than a minute and a half. What are ya'll smokin'?
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Freeman15
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:43 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41092 wrote:
Are you crazy? Everybody has had it with the Republicans...We're so over Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchinson...it's liable to be a Democratic sweep come Nov 08...mark my words...Republicans are political poison.


Huh?

I live in San Antonio man, and I wrote about Ron Paul in college for a Congressional Elections class (got a B, the professor didn't agree with my use of the word "evil" to describe welfare programs, anyway). Paul wins his Congressional district (district 14, just take 59 out to Lake Jackson all the way to Surfside Beach, you'll see his signs) with a clear majority every year, and consistently raises more money than his challengers. Further, Texas will go GOP in 2008, to think otherwise ignores the reality of our gerrymandered districts and the fact that a Democrat hasn't won Texas since Carter (against FORD, who wouldn't vote DNC?). Texas is going Red in 2008, maybe just not as red as usual.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:52 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;41115 wrote:
Huh?

I live in San Antonio man, and I wrote about Ron Paul in college for a Congressional Elections class (got a B, the professor didn't agree with my use of the word "evil" to describe welfare programs, anyway). Paul wins his Congressional district (district 14, just take 59 out to Lake Jackson all the way to Surfside Beach, you'll see his signs) with a clear majority every year, and consistently raises more money than his challengers. Further, Texas will go GOP in 2008, to think otherwise ignores the reality of our gerrymandered districts and the fact that a Democrat hasn't won Texas since Carter (against FORD, who wouldn't vote DNC?). Texas is going Red in 2008, maybe just not as red as usual.




So whooptie doo! Paul won't even register a blip as far as delegates are concerned...
What an imagination....wishful thinking at best....Republicans are history.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 11:01 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41117 wrote:
What an imagination....wishful thinking at best....Republicans are history.


Got any facts to support that?

The GOP carries Texas, and has done so for 30 years. You've got a gun-culture, a HUGE christian base interested in "moral values" (I know, I know, I hate those assholes too), and Rick Perry was re-elected despite being a puppet of Dubya (ie, ceding almost all state sovereignty). You will see our state colored red on CNN come November 2008.

Further, I'm a cynic, and your cynicism concerns me, which says something. Voting for the lesser of two evils still means you're supporting evil. Paul probably won't get the nomination, but he could, just as well as Edwards or Richardson could get the DNC nomination, we haven't even had a primary yet. However, even if he doesn't get the nomination, Dr. Paul might convince 1,000 people to embrace the Constitution, and they might convince another 1,000 people, and so on. America needs people like Dr. Paul and Congressman Kucinich, because they promote IDEAS. The only wasted vote is a vote for somebody you don't want.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2007 08:39 am
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;41120 wrote:
Got any facts to support that?

The GOP carries Texas, and has done so for 30 years. You've got a gun-culture, a HUGE christian base interested in "moral values" (I know, I know, I hate those ***s too), and Rick Perry was re-elected despite being a puppet of Dubya (ie, ceding almost all state sovereignty). You will see our state colored red on CNN come November 2008.

Further, I'm a cynic, and your cynicism concerns me, which says something. Voting for the lesser of two evils still means you're supporting evil. Paul probably won't get the nomination, but he could, just as well as Edwards or Richardson could get the DNC nomination, we haven't even had a primary yet. However, even if he doesn't get the nomination, Dr. Paul might convince 1,000 people to embrace the Constitution, and they might convince another 1,000 people, and so on. America needs people like Dr. Paul and Congressman Kucinich, because they promote IDEAS. The only wasted vote is a vote for somebody you don't want.


You and others like you have underestimated the damage done by Bush and Co., and the anger present because of it. The scenario is similar to the frustration the country felt when Iran held Americans hostage during the last days of Jimmy Carter's administration....and they welcomed the change presented by Reagan, who promised "a new day"...and he delivered, to legend.
Both parties have lost their way...the Dems trying to be too centrist, and the Repubs trying to have reduced government, while spending big, and catering to corporate greed, and forgetting the middle class along the way.

Texas. What a joke we are. Still stuck in the '60's. Big stupid city governments, big stupid state government. Were you around for the debacle of Hurricane Rita...where gridlock of the highways could have meant severe casualties, had the hurricane struck "dead on"...poor planning.
Metro Rail, in Houston...which travels from downtown to the Texas Medical Center...a justified route, but hardly the meager answer to Houstons' traffic problems and moving people from point A (which should be IAH) to point B (Southwest) or point C, (Southeast , to Galveston).
No attention being paid to road improvement, and infrastructure (it's a wonder we don't have a Minneapolis-styled bridge collapse)
Racist enclaves like Vidor, and Pasadena, which makes Jena, Louisiana seem all too familiar.
The contempt I feel for George Bush and Co., is only matched by the contempt that feel for Cornyn and Hutchison, two worthless individuals supposedly representing the people of Texas, who are busy lining their own coffers. I have written to Kay Bailey Hutchison, expressing my concerns about the war, and what I get back is a form letter, talking about us supporting our troops endeavors and keeping America terror free...BS
The lesser of two evils? Why are Dems known as the "party of the people", and the Repubs are known as "the party of the rich"????? There is a reason, you know....it's because it's the truth.
These last 7 years have been a "bacchanalia" for Republicans (and a few Democrats), with lobbyists just throwing money at and around legislators, whom, as P.J. O' Rourke labeled accurately, "a parliament of whores".
Well, people are fed up, and ripe for change...I leading the pack.
Wasn't Ron Paul a past Liberterian? What made him think he'd do well running as a leftist Repub? In any event...nice try, no cigar.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2007 10:09 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;41145 wrote:
You and others like you have underestimated the damage done by Bush and Co., and the anger present because of it.
 

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