@Drnaline,
Drnaline;27631 wrote:From your first link.
So which one? My educated guess is "the Arabs" Which is your guess?
Instead of trying to be ignorant by your own choice, would you please try to read the whole article instead of copying the first line!!? You asked for an answer and then you refuse to read the answer! That's called ARROGANCE.
Anyhow, Allah himself in the Noble Quran answers you:
"Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction." [Quran 4:82].
"And verily, you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) are being taught the Quran from the One, All-Wise, All-Knowing." [Quran 6:27]
"Verily, it is We (Allah) Who have sent down the Quran to you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) by stages." [Quran 23:76]
"Verily, We (Allah) have sent it down as an Arabic Quran in order that you may understand." [Quran 3:12].
"And this Quran is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it (i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel)) and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinn, and all that exists). Or do they say: "He (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a Surah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can besides Allah, if you are truthful!"" [Quran 10:37-38].
In Quran, ALLAH challenges All mankind and Jinns (since more than 1400) years:
"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true." [Quran 2:23]
the shortest sura (chapter) is about 10 words!!
Allah repeated this challenge:
"Say: If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support." [Quran 17:88]
The enemies of Islam need only to produce a sura (of 10 words) like the Quran, to prove that it is not from ALLAH (GOD)..why no one till now (since 1400 years) could do it!?
Drnaline;27631 wrote:From your first link.
If it is Allah that wrote it why would it need protecting? Maybe because it is manmade?
Because it is the exact words from Allah, the Creator, and because it is the last and final revealtion to all mankind. Unlike the Bible (OT & NT) which were corrupted by men because Allah (God) has sent it (Bible) for only the house of Israel for a limited period of time and He never promised to protect the Bible but He left that to them (Jews).
"you who received the law as ordained by angels, and yet did not keep it." (Acts-7-53)
"How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? "(From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)
Even the Catholic Church admits that the Bible has been corrupted by men’s falsification:
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible - Times Online
Drnaline;27631 wrote:From your first link.
Who's "we?"
It's the "ROYAL" WE.
Regarding the usage of 'We' in the Holy Qur'an, read this article that answers you
The usage of 'We' in the Quran -- Islamic articles and information on Islam for Muslims at VictoryScent
“These words, innaa (“Verily We”) and nahnu (“We”), and other forms of the plural, may be used by one person speaking on behalf of a group, or they may be used by one person for purposes of respect or glorification, as is done by some monarchs when they issue statements or decrees in which they say “We have decided…” etc. [This is known in English as “The Royal We” – Translator]. In such cases, only one person is speaking but the plural is used for respect.
The One Who is more deserving of respect than any other is Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, so when He says in the Qur’an innaa (“Verily We”) and nahnu (“We”), it is for respect and glorification, not to indicate plurality of numbers. If an aayah of this type is causing confusion, it is essential to refer to the clear, unambiguous aayaat for clarification, and if a Christian, for example, insists on taking ayaat such as “Verily, We: it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e., the Qur’an)” [al-Hijr 15:9 – translation of the meaning] as proof of divine plurality, we may refute this claim by quoting such clear and unambiguous aayaat as “And your god is One God, there is none who has the right to be worshipped but He, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful” [al-Baqarah 2:163] and “Say: He is Allaah, the One” [al-Ikhlaas 112:1] – and other aayaat which can only be interpreted in one way. Thus confusion will be dispelled for the one who is seeking the truth. Every time Allaah uses the plural to refer to Himself, it is based on the respect and honour that He deserves, and on the great number of His names and attributes, and on the great number of His troops and angels.” 3
“In regards to the presence of the "us" and "our" in the Old Testament, this is actually a proof against Christian belief since they were never understood in the way Christians understand them until the time of ‘St’ Paul or later. In Semitic usage, it is customary for one in authority to speak of himself in the plural. For examples of this in the Bible, see 2 Samuel 16:20 and Ezra 4:16-19. Almighty God, in the Qur'an, uses the Arabic word for "We" when He makes some statements, but no one who knows the Arabic language ever understood it as an argument for indication of plurality. This is what we call the "Plural of Majesty", and it is mentioned in almost any book on Arabic grammar.
English has much the same thing. When a King or Queen issues a proclamation, they say "We, the King of England..." This is also done by monarchs in Arabic-speaking countries. Who are they talking to when they do this? Their intended audience of course, not themselves. The examples given above (i.e. 2 Samuel 16:20 and Ezra 4:16-19), also demonstrate this.