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Quran Leads The Way to Science (Video)

 
 
markx15
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 12:27 pm
@The Submitter,
Sincerly what does it matter if the Q'uran does have these scientific facts? Did you discover anything new? Or is it all related to existing concepts? What is the Q'uran anyways, a biology book? Thats all you've shown us.
Dmizer
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 02:05 pm
@The Submitter,
Ok, so submitter wants us to stay on subject. Which is.... "the quran leads the way to science."

All of the "scientific wonders" as described by the Quran were all well known and "old hat" by the time Muhammed got around to passing them off as his own observations. Not only did the Greeks (back in 400BC) have the knowledge that the Quran claims came from Allah, but the Greeks learned it from Mesopotamia about a thousand years before the quran or Muhammed ever existed.
If that is not enough, The Chinese were even more advanced in their scientific endevours with regard to anatomy, math, navigation and astronomy. So to say that Muhammed wrote about such things a thousand years after they were already well know, and then pass it off as a vision or inspiration from Allah is really quite unoriginal. Honestly it's pretty sad you try and pass it off as something divine, when in reality it's just another form of plagerism. But hey, there you have a historical first! The first documented case of plagerism. Now that is something!
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 05:29 pm
@markx15,
Quote:
Here, I will just continue posting anything related to Quran and modren Science. Any attempts to divert the topic, I will not respond to it.



Can we hold you to that?
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 05:41 pm
@The Submitter,
You can compare religious texts all you want. The facts are that in the every day reality when women are abused here it is an act of dysfunction when it happens there it is only an exaggeration of the normal culture. I haven't read either text to any significant degree and frankly don't care which one is better written. Do we have a long way to go? Ocourse we do, but there has been progress here. How long do you think the women's movement or the Civil Rights movement would have lasted in the Middle East. How long before there is universal sufferage etc etc..I would be the last person to claim perfection for Christianity or the west ( I haven't been to church since I was an adolescent) or me the we are noble and you **** routine
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The Submitter
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 03:40 pm
@markx15,
markx15;11829 wrote:
Sincerly what does it matter if the Q'uran does have these scientific facts? Did you discover anything new? Or is it all related to existing concepts? What is the Q'uran anyways, a biology book? Thats all you've shown us.



Quran is Not a book of Science but a book of "SIGNS". It is the ever-lasting miracle of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as his message (Islam) is the last and final message to mankind. Therefore, Allah, put in the Quran signs to all mankind to show them that this is indeed his true words revealed to his messenger (peace be upon him). So, it's your choice to accept it or reject.

"We (Allah) will show you (mankind) Our signs/patterns in the horizons/universe and in yourselves until you are convinced that the revelation (Quran) is the truth." [Qur'an, 14:53]


According to the famous physicist and Nobel Prize winner, Albert Einstein, “Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” Therefore, I invite you to study the Quran, and analyze whether The Quran and Modern Science are compatible or incompatible?

When the claims of truth become many, we as Muslims were ordered by Allah to seek the Truth by the proof, by the proof the Truth is known, because always there is only One Truth Which is the real truth.

"The heavens and the earth were ordered rightly, and were made subservient to man, including the sun, the moon, the stars, and day and night. Every heavenly body moves in an orbit assigned to it by ALLAH (God) and never digresses, making the universe an orderly cosmos whose life and existence, diminution and expansion, are totally determined by the Creator." [Qur'an 30:22]


The other non-scientific miracle of Quran is this Challenge: In Quran, ALLAH challenges All mankind and Jins (since more than 1400 years):

"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true." (Quran 2:23)

Also,

"Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support." (Quran 17:88)


The shortest sura (chapter) is about 10 words!!

The enemies of Islam need only to produce a sura (a chapter of only 10 words) like of the Quran, to prove that it is not from ALLAH (GOD). Why no one till now (since 1400 years) could do it!!!?
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markx15
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 05:50 pm
@The Submitter,
Please define for me what is a sura? and if you could give me an example?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 07:15 pm
@The Submitter,
The Quran is a declaration of war against Civilization. It is the grand strategy and tactical plan for the defeat of Progress, and the triumph of barbarism in the modern age. The Quran has no place in Christian society. In our future kingdom, it will be banned. Its possession will be punishable by a 20-year prison sentence, at hard labor. No Muslims will be allowed. None.:no:
The Submitter
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2007 03:48 pm
@markx15,
markx15;11885 wrote:
Please define for me what is a sura? and if you could give me an example?


A "Sura" or "Surat" is an arabic word for a "Chapter" in Quran. The Quran has 114 surats (or chapters) varying in length and in number of verses. The smallest sura in Quran is about 3 verses (it is only 10 words).

There is only ONE version of the Quran, the Original version which is written and recited in Arabic exactly as revealed by Allah to prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). However, there are translations of the "meaning" of its words in english and in other languages.

Here is an example of a sura (this is only the english translation of its meaning) which is one of the shortest surats.

"Say: He is Allah (God), the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him." (Quran 112)

To hear Audio recitation of the Holy Quran in Arabic with english translation of its meaning click HERE: Audio Reciation of The Holy Quran
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Red cv
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2007 12:56 pm
@markx15,
It sounds like Submitter is trying to find a few recruits for the Religion of Violence? No thanks, I'd become a devil worshiper before I'd ever convert to Islam.

A great article and the treatment of woman in a Islamic Country.

We Might as Well Just Build Underground Cities for Women!
Abeer Mishkhas
VIEWING the changes that occur in Saudi Arabia, one realizes the almost simultaneous stepping forward and backward. One day, positive changes happen and the second day those steps are retracted, leaving those who were optimistic the first day in puzzled confusion. What is happening here exactly? One day we hear many positive assurances that women are receiving more rights in society through laws and new fields of work. The second day, we learn of restrictions on women?s movements and on their presence in prayer areas and workplaces and even in restaurants. From allowing women to work in the Ministry of Foregin Affairs to raids by the local ?morality police? in restaurants and cafes, suspicions are inevitably cast on mixed gatherings and we are told of the necessity for policing people?s leisure time. We have to stop here and ask ourselves ? when will we stop dancing forward and then jumping backward?


With no obvious answer to the question, we are left to deal with the complexities as they occur. This week two incidents that cry ?discrimination? were reported in the local papers and here they are. According to a newspaper article, mothers are not allowed to complain of any medical malpractice which has affected their children. Only fathers have the right to do so ? or that is what the legal advisor at the National Guard Hospital tells us. Mothers are not allowed to complain as if they were not involved in their children?s lives ? in most cases more than the children?s fathers. How is this logical and how can it be legal? Would anyone believe that mothers have no such right?


Story number two: In the House of Artists in Jeddah, artists exhibit their paintings and hold exhibitions. There has now been a call to remove women artists and their works from the House of Artists to other premises. There is a reason for this and it is not difficult to find it ? there were complaints that women artists were standing beside their work and explaining it to visitors. That, we are told as we are told, is against our traditions.


The matter was brought up by the head of the Fine Art Department in the Jeddah Culture and Art Society. The esteemed ?head? told a local paper that the founding members of the society were requesting that only male members should be allowed to participate in activities in the House of Artists. He added: ?We have to note that we are in a Muslim country where segregation of the sexes is the norm. Also 70 percent of the activities and functions of the house are dedicated to male artists and only 30 percent to women. The original purpose for opening the house was to serve male artists.?


Even in the world of art, men want women to step aside! What does this say about us and the so-called intellectuals in our country? I am simply lost for words. So male artists are not happy with having women around. What is to be done? The answer is to do it the Saudi way and kick the women out. They are uncomfortable that a woman artist stands before her work and explains it to people who came to see it and are happy to meet the artist. This, however, is considered offensive. By whom, we need not say. Some of the women artists interviewed were, needless to say, furious at the insinuations and innuendoes of indecency.


In the Kingdom, there are places which allow men and women to work together ? and these have been successful. Some of the places are in hospitals and in television and radio. In the latest move by the government, women are to hold jobs in the Foreign Ministry and also as diplomats. Are these women who have been appointed to their respective jobs by the government, and who have official blessing, violating the traditions of our country?


One expects artists to be an example of collaboration, especially since their work should free their minds of prejudice, but I have forgotten that our society does not believe in cooperation; it usually wants women to be put into specified areas where they are not in direct contact with other people. Can?t we just for one minute treat each other with respect and good will?


Yes, we are a conservative society and yes, some of us like to maintain family privacy and in some circles, people opt for the women only/men only policy. But there are also other areas in our society that allow the mingling of sexes, so what do we do? Obviously some of us do not understand that and that is why some people constantly complain of the presence of women. Maybe the solution is to create cities for women only or, as one friend suggested, ?Build underground cities for women.?


With such people as the head of the Fine Art Department, who asked for women to be excluded, I think we might find ourselves one day contemplating the idea of moving women outside the cities and maybe allowing families visiting times.
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2007 04:23 pm
@The Submitter,
As long as we are obsessed with roles, and homogeny, gender will be an issue.
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The Submitter
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2007 03:41 pm
@markx15,
[CENTER][SIZE="4"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]The Expansion of the Universe[/FONT][/SIZE][/CENTER]



In the Qur?an, which was revealed 14 centuries ago at a time when the science of astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described like this:

( And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it.) (Surat adh-Dhariyat: 47)

The word ?heaven?, as stated in this verse, is used in various places in the Qur?an with the meaning of space and universe. Here again, the word is used with this meaning. In other words, in the Qur?an, it is communicated that the universe ?expands?.

And this is the very conclusion that science has reached today.

Until the dawn of the 20th century, the only view prevailing in the world of science was that ?the universe has a constant nature and it has existed since infinite time?. The research, observations, and calculations carried out by means of modern technology, however, revealed that the universe in fact had a beginning and that it constantly expands.

At the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian physicist Alexander Friedmann and the Belgian cosmologist Georges Lemaitre theoretically calculated that the universe is in constant motion and that it is expanding.

This fact was proved also by observational data in 1929. While observing the sky with a telescope, Edwin Hubble, the American astronomer, discovered that the stars and galaxies were constantly moving away from each other. A universe where everything constantly moves away from each other implied a constantly expanding universe. The observations carried out in the following years verified that the universe constantly expands. This fact was explained in the Qur?an when it was yet unknown by anyone. This is because the Qur?an is the word of God, the Creator, and the Ruler of the entire universe.
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 01:59 pm
@The Submitter,
THE QUESTIONS NO CHRISTIAN WANTS TO ANSWER -

What about the Bible? Who actually wrote it?

What was the original language of the Bible?(Hebrew? Aramaic? Koine Greek?)
NOTE:- The Bible was never in English during the time of any prophet (not even Muhammad)- because English did not exist until after 1066 AD!

Does the Bible exist in the original form anywhere on earth?(No)

Why does the Catholic Bible has seven (7) more books than the Protestant Bible?

Why do these two Bibles have different versions of the same books?

Why are there so many mistakes and errors are from the very first verse right up to the very last verse?

Why do 'Born Again Christians' teach concepts that are not from the Bible?

There is no word "Trinity" in the Bible in any version of any language

The oldest forms of Christianity do not support the 'born again' beliefs

Jesus of the English Bible complains about the 'crucifixion'("Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani?- My God! My God! Why have You forsaken me?")[Mk 15:34]

How can Jesus be the "Only Begotten Son" of John 3:16? When in Psalms 2:7 David is God's "Begotten Son?"

Would a 'Just' God, a 'Fair' God, a 'Loving' God -- punish Jesus for the sins of the people that he called to follow him?

What happens to people who died before Jesus came?

What happens to those who never hear this message?

What about innocent children who die although their parents are not Christian?

Didn't God create Adam from dirt?-- So, why does he need Mary to make Jesus?

And what about God?
How can God create Himself?
How can God be a man?
How can a man be a God?
How can God have a son?
The Bible says "Seth (is) the son of Adam" and that"Adam is the son of God."[Lk 3:36]
Can't God just forgive us and not have to kill Jesus?
And what about Jesus?
Jesus did not even carry the cross -- Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did![Mk 15:21]
Jesus of the Bible was NOT on the cross for longer than six (6) hours -- NOT three days --(from the 3rd to the 9th hour)[Mk 15:25 & 15:33]
Jesus of the Bible did not spend three days and nights in the tomb -- Friday night - until Sunday before dawn -- is not 3 days and nights!
Jesus DID NOT claim to be God - or even equal to God!
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2007 09:18 pm
@The Submitter,
Submitter, did you die and come back as Sword of God?
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 09:07 am
@markx15,
Watch on videos scientists’ comments on the scientific miracles in the Quran.


Click on the comment to watch the corresponding video.

(1)- Prof. Gerald G. Goeringer

"..this description antedates by many centuries the recording of .. traditional scientific literature."



(2)- Prof. William W. Hey

"I would think it must be [from] the divine being."




(3)- Prof. T. V. N. Persaud

"I would think it must be [from] the divine being."



(4)- Prof. E. Marshall Johnson - 1

"I see nothing in conflict that ...divine intervention was involved".



(5)- Prof. E. Marshall Johnson - 2


"Quran describes .. major events recognized by contemporary science".



(6)- Prof. Alfred Kroner -1

"It is impossible [Muhammad] could have known about the common origin of the universe, scientists only found this out in the last few years using complicated and advanced techology".


(7)- Prof. Alfred Kroner -2

"Someone 1400 years ago could not know the heavens and the earth had the same origin..".


(8)- Prof. Keith Moore -1

"It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah..".


(9)- Prof. Keith Moore -2

"The only reasonable conclusion is these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God".


(10)- Prof. Joe Simpson

"..knowledge in the Quran .. derived from God."


(11)- Prof. Yoshihide Kozai

“I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in Quran".


(12)- Prof. Tejatat Tejasen*

"I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means." [1 min 35 sec - he makes SHAHADAH: Declaration testimony of Islam].


*Professor Tejasen (above) accepted Islam during this speech [click here & watch him make shahadah]


"We (Allah) will show you (mankind) Our signs/patterns in the horizons/universe and in yourselves until you are convinced that the revelation (Quran) is the truth." [Qur'an, 14:53]
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z0z0
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 12:43 pm
@markx15,
Sword of God - you comment on who wrote the Bible but you REFUSE to answer any questions about who wrote the Koran. Why do you refuse to answer?

If the Koran leads to science then why are the Arabic/Islamic nations of the world the most primitive and unsophisticated nations in the world?

Can you show me a dozen of so Islamic Nobel Price winners in any area of science?
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z0z0
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 05:24 pm
@markx15,
http://www.historyofjihad.org/sunset.jpg

An artist?s illustration of the more evident of Mohammed?s stupidities that the Sun disappears into a Mud Pond every night! The Mud Pond is in fact symbolic of the cesspool of brainlessness that characterizes a person, if he or she decides to become a Muslim.

http://www.historyofjihad.org/camelurine.jpg

An artist?s illustration of the most popular of Mohammed?s stupidities of drinking camel urine. Yuck!

http://www.historyofjihad.org/eclipse.jpg

An artist?s illustration of how the simplest things frightened the prophet of allah!

http://www.historyofjihad.org/apartheid.jpg

An artist?s illustration of how the prophet of allah had an apartheid mentality with regard to skin color. This is why the Arabs refer to the Africans as Abid (black) and played an active role in enslaving the Africans centuries before the European Slave traders learnt this despicable practice from the Muslims. And even then, it was the Arab slave traders who gave the African captives to the Europeans to be loaded on to the slave ships bound for the New World

Source: History of Jihad against the Arabs (622-634 C.E. 1-12 A.H.)
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 05:48 pm
@The Submitter,
^ That's hilarious.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 06:04 pm
@The Submitter,
Now that's really just unnecessary. I agree with your point, but I think it should be made in a more mature way.

No matter how funny it is.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 07:18 pm
@The Submitter,
Sword isn't gonna like this, LOL.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 07:26 pm
@The Submitter,
Oh, God, no. z0z0, didn't you just say you thought Sword could be dangerous? So the next thing you do is pull up offensive anti-Islamic cartoons?! Do you know what happened the last time someone made anti-Islamic cartoons?!
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