Giving Israel Back To The Arabs

No I don't believe it would Doly, once Israel was removed as a threat the Arabs would need someone else to blame for their problems. Have you ever seen an Arab coutry accept responsibility for their problems. NOPE. The Shite and Sunnis are heading for a culture clash globally. It's begun in Afghanistan and Iraq but this blood shed shall spread world wide. The US is just a red herring for blood shed. I don't think the Islamic Extremist can stop, they've become blood thirsty. What would all those freedom fighters do for a living if they had peace. It's not like they've ever been educated, trained for a trade, or can they even read?

I doubt it. The Islamic terrorists would still want us gone (as in from the face of the earth.) We would still be the infidels, etc., etc. and they would still try to convert/kill/persecute us.

I forgot to add one more gripe that the Islamic extremists have against the U.S. They don't want the U.S. to have a military presence in Saudi Arabia anymore either.

I think I feel the same way that you do. No matter what we do, short of converting to Islam, it wouldn't be enough.

However, I would like to see the Jews come to America and get the heck out of that hell hole. If this country can support approx. 20,000,000 Hispanics, I don't see why we couldn't accommodate 6,000,000 Jews who need a home.

The only problem is I don't think the Jews want to leave because of their religious ties to that land. Very sad.

Till the King of the Jews arrives - Israel back to its master(Egypt)

No. They don't deserve it back.

I believe the Jews are entitled to Israel. Palestinians were nomads and one day they decided they were entitled to Israel and it's been a war zone ever since. My version of the condensed version of Israel against Palestine.

Yes, I read that no one really cared much about that land until it was given to the Jews. I also read that the Jews were known as Palestinians years before the Arabs started calling themselves by that name. (I don't know how much historical truth there is to that. As we all know, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. :frown: )

the Jews and Christians in Israel should have all the land that is currently Palestine and Israel. The Palestinians are nomads who have embraced a terrorist belief that is immoral and corrupt. They have been given land for peace, and yet it has not worked. They will never stop hating Israelis, and either will the other corrupt and immoral countries of Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, and Eygpt. This hatred runs deep in tribal origins and only gets stronger with attention and resistance, it will not change. The hatred of the US is not JUST the U.S. although the Islamist say this, they actually lump Canada and the UK into the same catagory. In fact they think that we all are Christians and that this is a holy war between Muslims and Christians. So the hatred is basically the Western world, since they figure we are all the same.

The problem with the middle-east is that they have oil and we need oil. The money that has poured into these Islamic countries from Western Nations has funded the situaiton that we face today. Then it has simply grown from mistakes made, AND the Islamic growth of teachings commissioned by corrupt warlords of hatred and acceptance of criminal actions in a cult-religion.

Manipulations and manouvers over the oil pipeline has given power to those who have been taught to decieve and manipulate themselves.

So the hatred is simple and clear and too deep to eraticate.

I can't wait for the day when an alternative fuel is found and we can moon the ME. Once we have solved the problem of an oil substitute we shant have to put up with their foolishness anymore.

Doly you last post sums up Isreal, the Jews are the original Palestinians. Jorden is the place the Palestinians should be but their fellow arabs don't want them.

Too much wealth begets tyranny. I too long for the days when the Middle Easterners won't be able to peddle their black gold anywhere in the world. I just hope we survive long enough to see it happen.

You got that right!

And already the karma cycle is happening, the Saudis are crying because they have lost BIG TIME on the stock market....that made my day!!!!!!

HEEEE-heee-heeee-heee, l think l am going to research and find out what real estate the saudis own so l can bycott them...maybe l can get Janie to have a peace rally and tie up traffic around a suadi hotel, that might put a little dent in the ka-zillions they have recieved from North America.

Jews don't call it a hell hole, they call it home. Appeasement does not work with unreasonable people.

I wish someone would CC your post to Europe Drnaline, England installed new tiolets for it's muslim prisoners so they could pray to the south and go to the loo to the north. Australia has Muslim only bathrooms now, they don't want us infidels stinking up their bathrooms. Sheer Madness, and in the end it doesn't work because they still hate us.

actually Red, this can be a good thing, after all the peophilia that is taught as okay, would you want to see children going into a washroom with these believers?

And we can look at this from the other side, the normal non-cult people won't be contaminated!!!

However, with all these extra expenses and inconveniences to the regular tax-paying person, maybe politicans can pass a law that mandates for Muslims to pay a higher tax to accomodate all these special privileges?

Then they can be issued a passkey card and pass their gas and smelly waste all within the community...

Yeah, but taxing them for that sort of thing would only justify them in using the jizya on nobelievers.

But then you could call it a terrrorist tax, LOL.

funny!
and that is a good point R-Knight...

LOL can you imagine the "Rioting" if we taxed Muslims for being non-Christians as they do Christians in Islamic Countries? Bring on the jizya but make it monthly not yearly. They call us dhimmi what shall we call our new tax, someone has got to pay for all their "Special Needs" and I don't want it to be me.:headbang:

This article describes an accurate point of view regarding Palestine.

Palestinian people do not exist
Posted: July 11, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern





A provocative headline? It's more than that. It's the truth.
Truth does not change. Truth is truth. If something was true 50 years ago, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, it is still true today.
And the truth is that only 30 years ago, there was very little confusion on this issue of Palestine.
You might remember the late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir making the bold political statement: "There is no such thing as a Palestinian people."
The statement has been a source of ridicule and derision by Arab propagandists ever since. They love to talk about Golda Meir's "racism." They love to suggest she was in historical denial. They love to say her statement is patently false ? an intentional lie, a strategic deception.
What they don't like to talk about, however, are the very similar statements made by Yasser Arafat and his inner circle of political leadership years after Meir had told the truth ? that there is no distinct Palestinian cultural or national identity.
So, despite the fact that conventional wisdom has now proclaimed that there is such a thing as the Palestinian people, I'm going to raise those uncomfortable quotations made by Arafat and his henchmen when their public-relations guard was down.
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
That's pretty clear, isn't it? It's even more specific than Golda Meir's statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception ? one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.
In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here's what he said: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
No matter how many people convince themselves that the aspirations for Palestinian statehood are genuine and the key to peace in the Middle East, they are still deceiving themselves.
I've said it before and I will say it again, in the history of the world, Palestine has never existed as a nation. The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was never ruled by Arabs as a separate nation.
Why now has it become such a critical priority?
The answer is because of a massive deception campaign and relentless terrorism over 40 years.
Golda Meir was right. Her statement is validated by the truth of history and by the candid, but not widely circulated, pronouncements of Arafat and his lieutenants.
Israel and the West must not surrender to terrorism by granting the killers just what they want ? a public relations triumph and a strategic victory. It's not too late to say no to terrorism. It's not too late to say no to another Arab terror state. It's not too late to tell the truth about Palestine.