Society and it's role?

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I've noticed a trend these days for parents to blame society when their children are in conflict with the law. How is society to blame for a child who has chosen a path that envolves breaking the law. Where did parental responsiblity go, and who decided it's society's responsibilty. What happened to accountablity and responsibility by parents?

I've also noticed that the Socialist's blather on and on that "It takes a village" to raise a child but they never bothered to ask the rest of society whom don't share their idiology if we want yet another burden place on us by the most tolerant or else in society. To recap; it's society's fault if a child breaks the law but not negligent parents because we are suppose to raise the child not the parent. To me this is just another socialist agenda to excuse the weak, lame and lazy for not being capable parents. To state this openly would offend the politically correct so they use blanket statements that blame society thus ensuring no accountablity to parents who are inept and incompetant. The youth are fed this crap and come out of prison feeling like victims because "Society failed" no it didn't the youth failed and so did his/her parents.

Note to socialist, don't include me in your society I wasn't asked if I wanted the responsibility ergo you can have the mea culpa. It's time society stopped getting blamed for bad parents and out of control children and youth who have never been tought accountablity and the word "Consequence".

What say you people on this forum? Society's fault or socialist doctorine of blame the majority as they pander to a minority group.

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@Red cv,

Socialist doctorine. I was raised with a firm hand, when i got it i deserved it. And to this day i thank my dad for it.

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@Red cv,

I was raised the old fashioned way and was taught the consequences of my own actions. My kids were raised the same way and are well-adjusted members of society.
I don't believe in blaming society for people's mistakes or vices.

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@Red cv,

Society influences everyone, but it is up to the parents to guide their children as to how to acknowledge these influences.

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@Red cv,

I also was raised to be held accountable for my actions, I learned to apologise and accept the consequences of my actions. Today's young are raised with a sense of entitlement that is frightening. A University did a survey on the students and 93 percent of the students felt they had all the anwers to what ails the world. These same youth vocalized nothing but scorn and contempt towards adults who didn't feel the same way as they do. They are dubbed the "ME" generation because it's all about them. These youth are socialist to the core, these youth are tomorrows leaders and that scares me.

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@Red cv,

I don't believe that parents are the deciding factor.

My grandfather grew up with no parents, he's semi-rich, succesful, and incredibly intelligent.

I believe it's the individual.

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@Red cv,

Red;22504 wrote:

I also was raised to be held accountable for my actions, I learned to apologise and accept the consequences of my actions. Today's young are raised with a sense of entitlement that is frightening. A University did a survey on the students and 93 percent of the students felt they had all the anwers to what ails the world. These same youth vocalized nothing but scorn and contempt towards adults who didn't feel the same way as they do. They are dubbed the "ME" generation because it's all about them. These youth are socialist to the core, these youth are tomorrows leaders and that scares me.

No we're not.

Ever American teenager I've talked to on a political forum was an economically conservative socially liberal libertarian-type.

Of course, not the Europeans or Canadians. Few of them were, though.

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@Red cv,

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Ever American teenager I've talked to on a political forum was an economically conservative socially liberal libertarian-type.

Well, expect that to change. I'm 16 and not fitting your definition.

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@Reagaknight,

Reagaknight;22541 wrote:

Well, expect that to change. I'm 16 and not fitting your definition.

You mean the "socially liberal" part?

Bummer.

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@Red cv,

Pretty much. I'm not entirely economically conservative, though.

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@Reagaknight,

Reagaknight;22545 wrote:

Pretty much. I'm not entirely economically conservative, though.

Why? Aren't social liberalism and economic conservatism built on the same premise?

I've never understood this.

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@Red cv,

Well, I'm not socially liberal. I look to my religion a lot in political terms, which endorses some economically liberal and socially consrvative ideals.

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@Red cv,

Eh, I always thought economic conservatism was built off of the idea of freedom.

Social liberalism is built off that same idea.

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@Red cv,

Oh, I suppose so, but it's different now, isn't it? I guess that a free market would have been a pretty liberal idea some time ago, but now it's mainly economic conservatives that support it. And conservatism would once have meant usually supporting things like slavery, but not at all today.

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@Reagaknight,

Reagaknight;22551 wrote:

Oh, I suppose so, but it's different now, isn't it?

No, libertarians have always believed the same things (except we had to change our name from liberals to conservatives when the socialists took over, and conservatives to libertarians once the religous took over).

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@One Man Clan,

One Man Clan;22525 wrote:

I don't believe that parents are the deciding factor.

My grandfather grew up with no parents, he's semi-rich, succesful, and incredibly intelligent.

I believe it's the individual.

Of course you feel that way. You're a "pissed libertarian" remember? The fact is that parents play the most crucial role in their children's development. The first 3 years of their lives impact everything they will do for the rest of their lives. That is when they learn to trust, love and develop a moral foundation, a sense of security and the confidence to grow forward. Their imaginations need to be nourished and explored. They need to be nurtured not ignored. When they are, they thrive and want more. The role of parents in those early years determines what they will become later. Your grandfather sounds like a squared away man. But, he is the exception and not the rule. Any individual without primary guidance is like a rudderless craft in a hurricane.

Speak to him, he'll agree with me.

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@Red cv,

Red;21576 wrote:

I've noticed a trend these days for parents to blame society when their children are in conflict with the law. How is society to blame for a child who has chosen a path that envolves breaking the law. Where did parental responsiblity go, and who decided it's society's responsibilty. What happened to accountablity and responsibility by parents?

There is a wise African Proverb that says it takes a Village to raise a child, and I agree. But when somebody commits a crime you have to default to social responsibility.

if you want to place blame for a teenager commiting robbery I would draw it up like this (from most to blame to least)

Personal
Parents
Peers
Society

I got another proverb for you, it takes two to tango but only one to sin.

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@One Man Clan,

One Man Clan;22527 wrote:

No we're not.

Ever American teenager I've talked to on a political forum was an economically conservative socially liberal libertarian-type.

Of course, not the Europeans or Canadians. Few of them were, though.

That's because they (or their parents against whom they rebell) are rich enough to have computers and a land line or radio link to the internet and a teenager. Being a teenager usually means the person is in rebellion against their parents, their teachers, or society. That means they don't want to have constraints becuase they haven't finished exploring or sowing their wild oats. They don't want any constraints. The Libertarian mind set fits with this rebellion.

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@Silverchild79,

Silverchild79;22992 wrote:

There is a wise African Proverb that says it takes a Village to raise a child, and I agree. But when somebody commits a crime you have to default to social responsibility.

if you want to place blame for a teenager commiting robbery I would draw it up like this (from most to blame to least)

Personal
Parents
Peers
Society

I got another proverb for you, it takes two to tango but only one to sin.

I loathe the analogy it takes a village to raise a child, it's cir logic that comes back to placing the responsiblity onto society. It's socialist dogma to excuse lazy parents from responsibility. No one asked me if I wanted the responsibility of being the metophoric village nor was society as a whole asked if they were willing to accept the responsibility of raising said children.

If a child commits a crime it's the child who is responsible, if he/she has weak, lame and lazy parents they assume some of the blame but ultimatley it's the child who must accept mea culpa (accountability). We have allowed the left or liberal mindset to infect common sense, a parent is responsible for their children and the children are responsible for their behaviors. Peers and society have nothing to do with the issue, if a child has been instilled with a value system that teaches responsibility and accountability that child will assume liability for his/her actions. Those who haven't been raised with the ethos of accountability and responsibility will be tomorrows socialist whom blame SOCIETY, peers groups and anyone else to excuse themselves for their actions.

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@Silverchild79,

Silverchild79;22992 wrote:

There is a wise African Proverb that says it takes a Village to raise a child, and I agree. But when somebody commits a crime you have to default to social responsibility.

if you want to place blame for a teenager commiting robbery I would draw it up like this (from most to blame to least)

Personal
Parents
Peers
Society

I got another proverb for you, it takes two to tango but only one to sin.

It takes a village to raise a child if the child's parents refuse to accept their responsibility or if the village has socialist or communist tendencies and refuses to allow the parents to do their job and impart the values of the parents in the children.

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