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Why I'm beginning to really dislike the left.

 
 
Red cv
 
Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 04:36 pm
I was a member of this forum for a year, it's a left leaning site (if it got any lefter they'd be walking sideways or sidling like a crab) and I got banned for insulting one of the left/left religious zealots. Okay I really let her and her fans have it with a no hold barred attitude. Here's an example of the left and some of it's followers opinions on the US, if you are the sensitive type don't click okay. The thread's title is Nuke the US or some such nonsense.

7 Reasons To Nuke The US
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Dmizer
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 03:12 pm
@Red cv,
They are Canadian for Pete's sake! What did you expect out them?
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 27 Feb, 2007 07:02 pm
@Red cv,
The Left is a mess. Still, I'm neither a leftist, nor a rightist. I go with the issues. I'm also a Western Christian nationalist. So, I guess that makes me a conservative. Dunno. I support some liberal concepts. :headbang:
rhopper3
 
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Reply Wed 28 Feb, 2007 04:24 pm
@Red cv,
Modern politics is all about interest groups, and extreme views left right and whatever. There are few true moderates left.......
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2007 07:19 pm
@Red cv,
I want to see Christian civilization thrive and spread. For me, that's the bottom line.:headbang:
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2007 09:05 pm
@Red cv,
I want to see civilization spread period, aclutural, absolute civilization, not based on any paradym except the maximum amount of happines and self actualzation that can be had for each individual while each individual gives their fellow man what he is due and society what it must have to exist
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2007 09:37 am
@Red cv,
I think everyone wants the U.S. to get bombed in some way. For example, I think we should drop cluster bombs all around Howard Dean's house when he goes to work. Very Happy

Just kidding. Of course, I'd call that article more like 'terrorist' than the left.
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2007 11:05 am
@Red cv,
Show me a real enemy one that can be fought in a real direct way and I'll personally press the red button on his fanatical blood thirsty a** regardless of what philosophy he preaches. For the record guys like Howard Dean does what is called the "left" by this blog far more damage than he does anything or anyone else. I've never considered myself left wing but would likely fall in that category here.
That being said he is our Ann Coulter every time he opens his mouth he rallies more to the other side
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 06:22 am
@Red cv,
The Left is scurrilous, and must be fought with undying tenacity. It's atheistic, and brutally totalitarian. Marxism, in any form, is the enemy of God, nation, and progress. It must be defeated, for the sake of our Western Christian heritage and identity. There can be no compromises with it, under any circumstances.:no:
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Mon 5 Mar, 2007 02:16 pm
@Red cv,
I think there is a difference in definitions of what is left wing or liberal and what is genuinely communist and radical. I oppose any radicals left or right taking over what is at least theory a deliberately moderate system of government.
reactionary nationalist and Stalinist radicials are all the same to me both dangerous and tyrannical and to be avoided. One of the benefits of our admittedly agonizingly jaded and plodding republican system of democracy is that radical movements tend to be short lived. Power swings back and forth between conservative and liberal ideas but the radicals are thankfully marginalized. During the depression that balance was almost overthrown and both facist and genuinely socialist political movements told hold in the country. World War II and prosperity defeated those movements hopefully for good.
Many of the political ideas we take for granted were brought by what were then radical left leaning ideas..like slavery is wrong....democracy is better than monarchy and state religions are bad......and the majority of stability we need to enjoy those ideas is provided by conservative ideas like law and order and preservation of societal integrity and until recently avoiding foreign adventures ..the balance is not a compromise it is the object, the thing that makes form of government as maddening as it is, one of the longest lived in the world...
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Red cv
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 06:43 pm
@Red cv,
I'm tired of the Left/left voice drowning out the rights voice, they truely believe they are morally superior to the rest of us. They pat themselves on the back for their most wonderous tolerance and kindness, yet they scorn victims of crime, harbour hatred of the US to the point of paranoia, are terrified of free speech and think Islam is great even if it means negating the rights of Christians. I always thought I was a Liberal, I guess not.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 07:52 pm
@Red cv,
In order to more effectively fight Islam, the Western Christian people must overthrow the liberals in charge of their societies, including the media. Liberalism is a religion disguised as philosophy, and it's anti-Christian to the core. It must be classified as an enemy force within, grinding our nation into fine dust. I say smash it.
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Dmizer
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 09:07 am
@Red cv,
Pinochet-
Religion has no place in Government. Our founding fathers, many of whom were devout christians, saw this as being true. What you call for is considered tryanny and was exactly why the American revolution was fought.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 04:21 pm
@Dmizer,
Dmizer;11823 wrote:
Pinochet-
Religion has no place in Government. Our founding fathers, many of whom were devout christians, saw this as being true. What you call for is considered tryanny and was exactly why the American revolution was fought.


That's just untrue and a PC myth. Religion has played a huge role in our nation's government and history.
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 05:31 pm
@Red cv,
A better statement might be a nation has no place establishing a religion or forcing it on others. No Sharia law or its Christian equivilant here period.
The beliefs of individuals played a huge role religious individuals were involved in a lot of momentous events but religions is not and hopefully will not be our ultimate guiding light. It is a very slippery slope
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 08:07 pm
@Red cv,
Watch your step upon your own slippery slope. If it's Western liberalism to which you subscribe, be advised: in large measure, it grew out of Christianity as well as the Greek, classical tradition. It's not completely devoid of religious influence. You might owe much of your belief system to that which you seem to loathe -- religion.:no:
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0Megabyte
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 05:35 pm
@Red cv,
Actually, the only thing to loathe about religion is how many people of faith have, throughout history, tended to, you know, subjugate and kill people of different or no faiths?

Like, you know, the Muslim extremists and Christian extremists would quite like to do?

Speaking of which, the First Amendment was designed so that, you know, no religion would be allowed to gain the power needed to subjugate people of different faiths. Keeping the government from advocating a specific religion is a protection of everyone's religious rights, and as a Christian, I tend to consider those protections to be rather important.

I can understand how some people would see things like not allowing school prayer (that is, school-led prayer. Kids can still pray whenever the hell they want, naturalyl, and generally don't get in trouble for praying, nor should they) as an attack on Christianity. It's not. It's a defense of the rights of everyone, non-Christian AND Christian. If a non-Christian religion became the majority religion, I'm sure all Christians would be very happy that, say, Muslim prayer is not something that their kids are forced to do in public school.

So, seeing that, it's only just to not force kids who don't believe in Christ to pray to Him. It's all a matter of self-preservation, and defending ourselves should the tables ever be truly turned.

That's one example, of course. To be blunt, the government shouldn't put one faith above others, or favor any faith, for the sake of all of us, as there IS no single dominant faith. The many denominations of Christianity are not the same, and they've fought amongst themselves many times in the past, and subjugated and killed each other just as if they were of an entirely different religion. No thanks, I'd rather have no faith in control than one different than mine. And I think that's a compromise we should all agree to.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 05:52 pm
@Red cv,
I live to resurrect Christendom.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 05:57 pm
@Red cv,
No one says you should have Christian prayer. Prayers can be said by mostly any religion, or meditation, etc. except atheists. Atheists can surely have a moment of silence in memory of some tragic event.

P.S. There's a widely accepted argument that students can't pray in school openly because it would intimidate others or something.
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0Megabyte
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2007 06:23 pm
@Red cv,
Unfortunately, Pinochet, I don't live to ressurect Christendom.

Because power only corrupst religion, as it did the Catholic Church, my church.

Sorry, but Christians need to focus on God, and their faith, and doing what is right, not ruling over empires, and certainly not forcing others to change their beliefs by swordpoint (as in, you know, the Spanish Inquisition. And the Crusades.)

Ruling the world shouldn't be our goal. For the world shouldn't be our focus, period!

Of course, as a human living in the United States, and as an imperfect Christian, I do get involved in politics, and feel this: when it comes to worldly matters, the Consitution, and the philosophy of freedom, particularly of religion, has it right, and to try to turn it into a nation run by a religion (as I assume Christendom would be, a nation ran by Christian beliefs, ruled by specifically Bible based, Christian law?) is against the spirit of this nation, which I quite like, actually.
 

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