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Putin Hints at His Successor

 
 
mousy
 
Reply Sat 17 Feb, 2007 03:55 pm
Vladimir Putin may appear to be the most tenacious ruler of Russia in a long time but he does serve within term limits ? and this is his second term as President, the last he can serve consecutively. With just 16 months to go, Kremlinologists have been trying to calibrate who his successor may be. This week, Putin gave them a new factor to throw into their equations. He elevated Sergei Ivanov, a former KGB foreign intelligence officer who had been serving as Defense Minister and as Deputy Premier, to a large new portfolio. Ivanov is now in charge of Russia's mammoth Military-Industrial Complex (that is indeed what it is called), a conglomerate of research, commercial and manufacturing operations that is the direct descendant of the Soviet era monopoly of all things having to do with the military. The Military-Industrial Complex makes up a substantial part of the country's economy, perhaps as much as 9% of GDP.

What is surprising is that of the top two contenders for the succession, Ivanov had not been the favorite. The betting odds had been on First Deputy Premier Dmitri Medvedev, who is in charge of, among other things, Gazprom, the energy company that supplies the natural gas and petroleum needs for much of Europe ? and whose policies mirror, if not predict, the actions of the Russian government. Ivanov's promotion gives him a civilian office to match Medvedev's, if not quite the economic clout, in the struggle for succession that observers are calling the War of the Kremlin Towers. Ivanov and Medvedev are two of these metaphorical towers. A third is Putin confidant Igor Sechin, whose adherents are trying to extend Putin's stay in office rather than push their faction leader's candidacy for the top job.

How did the hawkish Ivanov move up to near parity with Medvedev? Until recently, Putin had appeared to be an advocate for Medvedev and his conciliatory gestures towards Europe and the U.S. At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, last month, Medvedev delivered speeches to the effect that Russia is firmly on the way of democracy and friendly cooperation with the West. Meanwhile, Ivanov was taking an aggressive tone, berating the U.S. for planning to deploy an anti-missile defense in Eastern Europe and having his Chief of General Staff threaten that Russia may walk away from a 1987 treaty between Moscow and Washington that scrapped mobile intermediate-range nuclear missiles.

But last week, Putin was sounding just like Ivanov. In visits to Munich and Amman, he castigated the U.S. and NATO with a vehemence not seen in a Moscow leader since the Cold War. Said one well-placed Russian official: "The Munich speech indeed set the Putin agenda for his remaining tenure as President." It was also, the official said, a "clear signal of his support for Ivanov." It's still too early to guess who will be the handpicked Successor ? Ivanov or Medvedev, or some other personage in the shadows. But one thing is certain, Putin has the clout to divide up oversight for the Russian economy among his would-be heirs; and when they inherit, they will owe him. He may not have to remain President to be the most powerful man in Russia.
Putin Hints at His Successor -- Friday, Feb. 16, 2007 -- Page 1 -- TIME
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mousy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Feb, 2007 04:13 pm
@mousy,
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How did the hawkish Ivanov move up to near parity with Medvedev? Until recently, Putin had appeared to be an advocate for Medvedev and his conciliatory gestures towards Europe and the U.S. At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, last month, Medvedev delivered speeches to the effect that Russia is firmly on the way of democracy and friendly cooperation with the West.



What if Russia does not choose America's idea of democracy? Or friendly cooperation? Does that mean war
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Wed 21 Feb, 2007 11:05 am
@mousy,
who cares? All l like about Russia is the vodka, very cold and on ice...
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:28 am
@mousy,
Kettle one is the bomb.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 05:48 pm
@mousy,
Huh, Dr? Is this a Vodka?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 07:15 pm
@mousy,
Best vodka i have ever tasted.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 08:30 am
@mousy,
Stoly for me when I drink Vodka .
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 08:48 am
@mousy,
I've drank alot of vodka and as i say nothing compares except maybe Graygoose. You have it straight up or mixed?
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 09:03 am
@mousy,
On the rocks and usually sipped , not shots or guzzled .
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 10:10 am
@mousy,
Shots for me. Ever see it at a bar, give it a try. Let me know the cost and the first one will be on me.
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Red cv
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 12:59 pm
@mousy,
Newfoundland Canada sells vodka made from IceBerg water, I never tried it thou. When I read the headline for this thread I thought it said "Putin" puts a hit out on his replacement". In Canada we have a food called "Putine" fried french fries gravy and cheese curds topped with ketchup, after consumption you will not need to eat for at least six days if you live that long.
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 10:29 pm
@mousy,
Let' get Mikey he'll rule anything......Putin will still control it all know that he is to clever and adictied to power and he is a big ballet fan and a snapper dresser ands a member in good standing with the society for the creation of no world extradition treaties movement...
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mousy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 10:50 pm
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;11209 wrote:
who cares? All l like about Russia is the vodka, very cold and on ice...




I like the nukes..Very Happy
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Fri 23 Feb, 2007 11:00 pm
@mousy,
Well if you are talking about closing the country down splitting everything up I;ll take the female ballet dancers, the younger ones...no retired ballerinas for me
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Red cv
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 05:20 pm
@mousy,
Okay but I want the male ballet dancers.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 09:15 pm
@mousy,
I guess i can use a tooto to go with my tights.
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rhopper3
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 09:38 pm
@mousy,
Well we've got the dancers alloted whose going to take the vodka and the crappy cars
mousy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Feb, 2007 10:49 pm
@mousy,
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What is surprising is that of the top two contenders for the succession, Ivanov had not been the favorite. The betting odds had been on First Deputy Premier Dmitri Medvedev, who is in charge of, among other things, Gazprom, the energy company that supplies the natural gas and petroleum needs for much of Europe ?




Can America's European allies get the majority of its natural gas and petroleum from America?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 25 Feb, 2007 10:00 am
@rhopper3,
rhopper3;11413 wrote:
Well we've got the dancers alloted whose going to take the vodka and the crappy cars

We'll just scrap the crappy car and make new ones.
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Tulip cv
 
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Reply Sun 25 Feb, 2007 01:37 pm
@mousy,
putin is a pheophile, didn't l post him kissing some innocent child's stomach? he did this in public, just suddenly grabbed the kids shirt and {ugh} smacked a big one on the exposed flesh!!!!!!

nasty...if you want to see it again...just ask....yuck....

as for your putine, RED, funny how feeling quesy is the experience after watching the face of putin during political to-does...

I trust the russian spy who was about to uncover something big about putin and his corruption and now he is dead, he warned us "It is Putin".

He is behind the Iran Nuclear stuff...nasty little guy.
 

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