EU's path to global dominance

@European cv,

They can plan all they want, dominate 2010? That's a laugh! Maybe by 3010?

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@European cv,

Funny it takes an entire continent and conglomeration of nations just to compete with one.

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@European cv,

We been kicking there butts for two hundred years and there a little tired of it? They probably made all those plan thinking we would go along with Kyoto, turns out we weren't the suckers they thought we were.

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@European cv,

Kicking their butts? How?
You think the US is the best country in the world? You're not even the richest, and you certainly haven't got the best living standard in the world. Sure, America is a superpower, but for how long? If the EU can't compete, you can be sure China will.

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@European cv,

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You think the US is the best country in the world?

Yes. I may be a bit biased though.

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@Brent cv,

I might be too when it comes to my country, but then again I have the UN to back me up, if I were to say that my country is the best in the world.

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@bergenslabb,

bergenslabb;7439 wrote:

Kicking their butts? How?
You think the US is the best country in the world? You're not even the richest, and you certainly haven't got the best living standard in the world. Sure, America is a superpower, but for how long? If the EU can't compete, you can be sure China will.

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Kicking their butts? How?

Economically, militarily.

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You think the US is the best country in the world?

Best one i've ever lived in.

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You're not even the richest, and you certainly haven't got the best living standard in the world.

I didn't say we were the richest. But being third (per capita)for a country that only been around for a couple hundred years is kickin ass in my book.

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Luxembourg information
Summary
Location: Western Europe, between France and Germany
Population: 468,571 (July 2005 est.)
Capital: Luxembourg
GDP per capita: purchasing power parity - $58,900 (2004 est.)

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Norway information
Summary
Location: Northern Europe, bordering the North Sea and the North Atlantic Ocean, west of Sweden
Population: 4,593,041 (July 2005 est.)
Capital: Oslo
GDP per capita: purchasing power parity - $40,000 (2004 est.)

The two populations above us are half a million and four and a half million. And the US.

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United States information
Summary
Location: North America, bordering both the North Atlantic Ocean and the North Pacific Ocean, between Canada and Mexico
Population: 293,027,571 (July 2004 est.)
Capital: Washington, DC
GDP per capita: purchasing power parity - $37,800 (2004 est.)

300 mill, you don't think that's kickin ass?

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Sure, America is a superpower, but for how long?

As long as were kickin ass!

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If the EU can't compete, you can be sure China will.

Why is China gaining? Because we buy alot of cheap **** from them. Do we have to, no. What would happen to china if we bailed. Tits up i say.

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@European cv,

Bergen Norway? Your not the richest either, LOL.

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@bergenslabb,

bergenslabb;7444 wrote:

I might be too when it comes to my country, but then again I have the UN to back me up, if I were to say that my country is the best in the world.

And where is the UN headquarters? Who pays the majority of the money they spend? Are you sure they got your back?

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@European cv,

My point is that there are many countries which could be considered as far better than the US. Of course, that depends on the meaning of "better". I think it seems to many europeans like the government in the US spends most of its time on the military and foreign policy, instead of focusing on its own country, which has enough problems that should be taken care of. But since I like in a welfare state I might have different views on the subject than an average american would.

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@European cv,

I can see your point but as in the past. Alot of countrys were glad of our policy as most of europe is now free to think of us as they will. Times have changed but i don't think we have. In the fortys i think Norway was glad of our intervention. As was most of europe. I'm sure Germany, Italy and Japan wished we would of minded our own business.

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@European cv,

Yes, we would have had a big problem without the US during WW2, but it's not like they jumped right in to save us either.. It did take an attack on american soil.

Politics in our countries is very different, which makes it interesting to learn more about american politics. I recently attended a lecture with an american professor, and I asked him to compare the norwegian parties with the american parties. I could never vote for the republicans, and I think there are few norwegians who could, yet I am considered conservative in my country.
Does the fact that you only have two parties make it harder for the american people to get interested in politics?

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@bergenslabb,

bergenslabb;7499 wrote:

Yes, we would have had a big problem without the US during WW2, but it's not like they jumped right in to save us either.. It did take an attack on american soil.

Politics in our countries is very different, which makes it interesting to learn more about american politics. I recently attended a lecture with an american professor, and I asked him to compare the norwegian parties with the american parties. I could never vote for the republicans, and I think there are few norwegians who could, yet I am considered conservative in my country.
Does the fact that you only have two parties make it harder for the american people to get interested in politics?

That war was with Japan, we never declared war on Germany.

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I recently attended a lecture with an american professor, and I asked him to compare the norwegian parties with the american parties.

He was probably a liberal professor, which is prodominant in our schools of higher learning. How did he explain the comparison?

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I could never vote for the republicans, and I think there are few norwegians who could, yet I am considered conservative in my country.

Takes all kinds. I'm interested in your kind of conservatism?

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Does the fact that you only have two parties make it harder for the american people to get interested in politics?

I don't think so. People here get in tune with there own lives to pay much attention to politics. There are some off shoots of partys. There is a libertarian party and independants but they are small. Conservatism does not mean you are a republican just like democrat does not mean you are liberal.

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@European cv,

Try this link.

Blogthings - How Liberal Or Conservative Are You?

It will give me a good idea of how you think.

Here's the link of how some on this forum faired with the above.

http://www.conflictingviews.com/t463

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@European cv,

Yes, he was a liberal professor, but I do think his comparisons were as accurate as they can be. But since both our party systems and election systems are so different, it is hard to make completely accurate comparisons. Your parties are much wider than ours. He compared the democrats with Arbeiderpartiet (our Labour Party). The Republicans cannot be compared with any of the larger norwegian parties, though. Our Progress Party and the Christian People's Party might have a few traits in common with the Republicans, but there's still a lot of differences.

The party I belong to is called H?yre, which directly translated means Right. But when foreign newspapers write about norwegian parties, they usually call it the Conservatives. It's in favour of upholding the welfare state, through taxes, like the Labour Party, but they want a stronger market economy. I would think that in america it would be considered to be a party close to the center.

I also noticed that in america you call the democrats for liberals. Meaning that the leftwing party is liberal. In Norway it's usually the rightwing or centrist parties who refers to themselves as liberal.

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@European cv,

I did take that test, but the answers didn't suit me, because it seemed you have to be either a socialist, or very conservative to like the choises. I'm apparently neither.

I did take the political compass test a while ago, and that one is also based on american politics.. It placed me 0,05 to the right, meaning that I'm almost right in the center.

Political Compass

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@European cv,

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The party I belong to is called H?yre, which directly translated means Right. But when foreign newspapers write about norwegian parties, they usually call it the Conservatives. It's in favour of upholding the welfare state, through taxes, like the Labour Party, but they want a stronger market economy. I would think that in america it would be considered to be a party close to the center.

We as conservatives for the most part do not favor the welfare state. We would like recipients to work for it rather. By your definition we would call you a moderate.

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I also noticed that in america you call the democrats for liberals. Meaning that the leftwing party is liberal. In Norway it's usually the rightwing or centrist parties who refers to themselves as liberal.

Wow, this sound all very strange to me. How many partys are there in Norway?
I consider myself conservative. Republicans as a party come closest to my beliefs. I am registered a repug (slang for republican).

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@European cv,

There are seven parties that have seats in the parliament, and three of those parties formed a new coalition government in 2005. There are currently four opposition parties, mine being one of them. We do have many other smaller parties as well, but they usually get less than 4% of the votes, which is what each party needs in order to win seats in parliament.

I think maybe one of the reasons why so few norwegians would vote for the Republicans is that most of us disagree with the Republicans when it comes to abortion and same-sex marriages, and other issues that are connected mainly with christian values. The statistics will tell you that almost 90% of the norwegian people are christian (lutherans I think). But in reality, I'd say a lot less than 50% really are.

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@European cv,

This is how i cam out.

Economic Left/Right: 4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.56

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