Rumsfeld okayed abuses says former U.S. general

@NaterG,

It worked alright for them, until those barbarians the French came to our aid.

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@tumbleweed cv,

tumbleweed;7595 wrote:

Wow. If we, the U.S. have used guerrilla tactics as a method of war, what's the big deal of our current enemies doing the same?:wtf:

Talk about double standards.

I didn't mean necessarily like the terrorists are doing, I am talking about using cover and such, instead of facing strait up like the Brits did.

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@NaterG,

Guerrilla tactics are an effective method of warfare. We went to Iraq to fight a conventional war and fell on our face because of lack of planning, We took a knife to a gun fight.

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@tumbleweed cv,

tumbleweed;7598 wrote:

Guerrilla tactics are an effective method of warfare. We went to Iraq to fight a conventional war and fell on our face because of lack of planning, We took a knife to a gun fight.

Mostly because what needs to be done isn't being done. Politicians are not the ones fighting the war, so they need to stop trying to "manage" it. They declare war. Now let the damn armed forces do what it needs to do. Quit trying to play toy soldiers and let the men who know what they are doing call the shots and do it right. It is the politics that is ******* up this war.

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@oleo,

oleo;7591 wrote:

Hey, I heard the Romans and the Jews redefined torture so that it doesn't
include crucifixion, scourges, lashings or apply to people who attempt to
sabbotage the merchant system in the temples.

Christianity has some editing and redefining to do.

You people are insane. Torture is torture, and if we withdraw from the Geneva convention we lose our decency as a nation. No, the barbarian lunatics of the muslim world don't live by the rules of civilization, and that's why we're better than they are, and will prevail unless we lose touch with that.

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Hey, I heard the Romans and the Jews redefined torture so that it doesn't
include crucifixion, scourges, lashings or apply to people who attempt to
sabbotage the merchant system in the temples.

Why didn't they just behead them?

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Christianity has some editing and redefining to do.

I think the Muslims at the kings on redefining. They would like to edit you all the way up to dead. And it's the Christians that are attempting to stop them. Funny you would have us stop. I'd like to see you and an extreme Muslim in a rood with you trying to explain to him why he shouldn't kill you? How long do you think you would last?

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You people are insane. Torture is torture, and if we withdraw from the Geneva convention we lose our decency as a nation.

Can i hear a conversation about Muslims not being fair for a change? YOu love harping on us but never a word for them? YOu like others i have asked cannot prove we torture anyone, a little misstreatment maybe but not torture. You got some thing substancial post it!

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No, the barbarian lunatics of the muslim world don't live by the rules of civilization, and that's why we're better than they are, and will prevail unless we lose touch with that

I'd like to see how we are better. You sound very opposed to violence. Passive to a fault. How far would you let me get you before you defend yourself? I'm sure i could insult you, maybe even insult your wife/girlfriend. You think you would let me poke you in the ribs, or push your shoulder taunting you. Would you let me slap you? Maybe even punch you and you think you would relatiate? The only question here is where you limit is? But you limit i will reach, what are you gonna do, fight? All you gonna fight me fairly or are you gonna try and kick my ass! If i'm smaller then you are you gonna not hit me as hard? What if I don't know how to fight? You gonna go easy on me? You people always expect us to tolerate others and then you the first to not, why is that? When you can prove to me you are above it all like you think you are then maybe you arguement will hold more weight, but as i and you know we are the same. Quit being hipocritical and whining when you are no better.

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@tumbleweed cv,

tumbleweed;7595 wrote:

Wow. If we, the U.S. have used guerrilla tactics as a method of war, what's the big deal of our current enemies doing the same?:wtf:

Talk about double standards.

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what's the big deal of our current enemies doing the same

Nothing, but don't complain when we stupe to there level. Alls fair in love and war right?

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@tumbleweed cv,

tumbleweed;7598 wrote:

Guerrilla tactics are an effective method of warfare. We went to Iraq to fight a conventional war and fell on our face because of lack of planning, We took a knife to a gun fight.

Effective or not there still getting there ass handed to them. Homany terrorists are dead as opposed to Americans? They don't beat the Americans on tactics either. WE new it would be first conventional then gorilla. engagement have been so since the 70's.

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@Drnaline,

Body count isn't an indication of who is winning the war.:wtf:

They didn't expect a guerrilla war. They thought we would be greeted with open arms. It seems they had the arms but they weren't what I would call open.

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@tumbleweed cv,

tumbleweed;7617 wrote:

Body count isn't an indication of who is winning the war.:wtf:

They didn't expect a guerrilla war. They thought we would be greeted with open arms. It seems they had the arms but they weren't what I would call open.

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Body count isn't an indication of who is winning the war.:wtf:

Tell that to the Amercian media, seems they can't live without it.
My ass they didn't expect a querrilla war. Our guard had a special course made with such warfair in mind, it was installed and funtional way before action took place.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;7643 wrote:

Tell that to the Amercian media, seems they can't live without it.
My ass they didn't expect a querrilla war. Our guard had a special course made with such warfair in mind, it was installed and funtional way before action took place.

Try telling that to someone who believes it. Very Happy

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@tumbleweed cv,

Denial is not a river in egypt.

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@Drnaline,

Yea, and bull-**** doesn't always come from a cow. Very Happy

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@tumbleweed cv,

I thought it came from a Bull? If it is truely bullshit.

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@Drnaline,

Why didn't they just behead them?

They wanted them to suffer, for days, in public, and be made an example of.

I think the Muslims at the kings on redefining. They would like to edit you all the way up to dead. And it's the Christians that are attempting to stop them. Funny you would have us stop. I'd like to see you and an extreme Muslim in a rood with you trying to explain to him why he shouldn't kill you? How long do you think you would last?

Oh, those blood lusty extremist muslims... sitting in their old, decrepit
house in rural Texas, waiting for hapless interlopers to get stranded nearby
so they can carve them up with chainsaws. Do they wear turbans on top of
their hockey masks? You need to get a more informed view of who the
various enemies and sides of people in this thing are... and you won't find
that on Fox news.

Can i hear a conversation about Muslims not being fair for a change? YOu love harping on us but never a word for them? YOu like others i have asked cannot prove we torture anyone, a little misstreatment maybe but not torture. You got some thing substancial post it!

Extremist muslims aren't fair.

This is torture:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/iraqis_tortured_wp-f.jpg

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/iraqis_tortured_wp-e.jpg

I'd like to see how we are better. You sound very opposed to violence. Passive to a fault. How far would you let me get you before you defend yourself? I'm sure i could insult you, maybe even insult your wife/girlfriend. You think you would let me poke you in the ribs, or push your shoulder taunting you. Would you let me slap you? Maybe even punch you and you think you would relatiate? The only question here is where you limit is? But you limit i will reach, what are you gonna do, fight? All you gonna fight me fairly or are you gonna try and kick my ass! If i'm smaller then you are you gonna not hit me as hard? What if I don't know how to fight? You gonna go easy on me? You people always expect us to tolerate others and then you the first to not, why is that? When you can prove to me you are above it all like you think you are then maybe you arguement will hold more weight, but as i and you know we are the same. Quit being hipocritical and whining when you are no better.

Oh, I'd kick your ass. I wouldn't bomb your house and wife, though.

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@tumbleweed cv,

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They wanted them to suffer, for days, in public, and be made an example of.

In public for all to see. Had they advertised i would of went to watch. They didn't and it wasn't public. Or do they allow the general public these days?

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Oh, those blood lusty extremist muslims... sitting in their old, decrepit
house in rural Texas, waiting for hapless interlopers to get stranded nearby
so they can carve them up with chainsaws. Do they wear turbans on top of
their hockey masks? You need to get a more informed view of who the
various enemies and sides of people in this thing are... and you won't find
that on Fox news.

Not rural Texas, the ones we know about were in Arizona. Getting trained to fly jets. Little did we know they wanted to land them in buildings. Did they wear turbins, no. I know who the enemy is and your aiding them. I didn't get that from fox, i got it from you.

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Extremist muslims aren't fair.

I asked for a conversation, not a sentence.

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This is torture:

No, this is torture.
LiveLeak.com - Daniel Pearl Beheading Video | Daniel Pearl Execution Video

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I'd like to see how we are better. You sound very opposed to violence. Passive to a fault.

I didn't see any heads on the floor, or pools of blood? We could learn a few lessons from those extremists. I think were to nice.

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Oh, I'd kick your ass. I wouldn't bomb your house and wife, though.

No, you would try and kick my ass. So why now do you have this double standard in which you judge us by but not yourself? Your better then that right? Wrong!!! When it comes down to it you will do what you have to, for what ever reason you justify. Are you better then me? No. Are you better then extremist muslims? No. But yet you expect our soldier who have watched friends die for a cause being killed by these psychopaths. And you expect no revenge? How liberal of you. Your liberalness makes you a hipocrite. Now were the suit proudly like you know you want too.

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@Drnaline,

Hate the Liberals speech.Where have I heard that before? Very Happy

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@tumbleweed cv,

I don't hate them, some of my closest friends are Libbys. Guess what, i still like them.

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@Drnaline,

This isn't about friendship. This is about blaming everything on liberals.

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@tumbleweed cv,

That's a good one coming from the blame a republican camp! Why do you keep getting offended even though you say your not one, Hmmm?

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@Drnaline,

It isn't about being offended.It's about reality. The liberals aren't the demons you would like everyone to believe they are. The last election showed that.

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