Rep. Rangel will seek to reinstate draft

Bobby Kennedy supported doing away with educational deferments to the
draft in the late '60s. The reason? Fairness, and the fact that the people
who were supporting the war in Vietnam weren't the ones being forced to go
fight it.

Rangel's trying to make a similar point. He's not doing a great job of it, and
the conditions are different... not the same scenario.

Alll I will say is any non-american person who joins the military should be
made a citizen instantly. If you're willing to fight for this country that's good
enough for me.

Alll I will say is any non-american person who joins the military should be
made a citizen instantly. If you're willing to fight for this country that's good
enough for me.

If that were so today we would have a prodominantly hispanic military who's loyalty may not be with us in mind. I imagine the recent immigration demontrations but with guns.

and you're hispanic, right?

I have never found hispanics to be any more disloyal to America than any other ethnic group.

There are jewish Americans who are certainly concerned with the well-being of Israel, yet are loyal Americans.

Same with any group of -Americans... cuban-americans, irish-americans, croat-americans, etc.

I find your statement incredibly puzzling. The benefit of getting further along on the road to American citizenship is one of the primary reasons non-americans join the military.

If you suggest their motives are selfish, you really need to take stock of the motives of people in general, here and elsewhere.

The mestizo-hispanics were in the southwest before the United States was...

borders and boudries are drawn by men, not divine forces. The Mexicans who liken their situation to those caught on the other side of the Berlin Wall might have a valid arguement.

Still, we have to have a coherent, beneficial immigration policy. A wall with a gate. I still think those willing to put their lives on the line should be invited in.

I was pointing out that I think that people are selfish, in general, most of the time.

No, I don't live where you do... New Mexico, right?

I live an hour outside of New Orleans, which now has a big, new Central and
South American population, because the government allowed workers to be
brought in after the hurricane and suspended any kind of legalized citizen
concerns. Contractors I know have had to reluctantly hire them (and learn
some Spanish on the fly), and say they want to stay and become citizens.
It's causing problems on one-hand because of obvious reasons, and on the
other hand they are working their asses off and are so overjoyed at having
opportunity and a chance to live the American Dream. No one knows what to
think, or to expect in the future.

I think non-legalized citizen troops (and their families) are usually granted
citizenship if they die in the line of duty. I still think if they serve in combat
they've earned it... I know of ways that wealthy people can invest and hurry
their legalization. I know your opinion is to cut out any favoritism, but this is
capitalism, I don't believe that will ever happen.

I was pointing out that I think that people are selfish, in general, most of the time.

No, I don't live where you do... New Mexico, right?

I live an hour outside of New Orleans, which now has a big, new Central and
South American population, because the government allowed workers to be
brought in after the hurricane and suspended any kind of legalized citizen
concerns.

Contractors I know have had to reluctantly hire them (and learn
some Spanish on the fly), and say they want to stay and become citizens.

It's causing problems on one-hand because of obvious reasons, and on the
other hand they are working their asses off and are so overjoyed at having
opportunity and a chance to live the American Dream. No one knows what to
think, or to expect in the future.

I think non-legalized citizen troops (and their families) are usually granted
citizenship if they die in the line of duty.

I still think if they serve in combat
they've earned it... I know of ways that wealthy people can invest and hurry
their legalization. I know your opinion is to cut out any favoritism, but this is
capitalism, I don't believe that will ever happen.

Food for thought.

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