@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;29691 wrote:We have to give up the fantasy that residential, liberal, political forces in Muslim countries can topple their theocratic tyrannies. They can't. Primitive, fundamentalist Islam is simply too strong throughout the Islamic world to be overthrown internally. External attacks are the only option. That's yet another reason why America's deposition of Saddam Hussien was inevitable. Iran is next.
do u think Saddam is an example of Primitive fundamentalis Islam as u say? better think again, he was the most secular regimes in the islamic world, one more thing except for ksa and Sudan(even Sudan's government isnot realistically Islamic nor KSA's its elements within both that are extremists) all other regimes are secular , Syria for example , remmeber Hafiz Alassad? he tortured murdered islamist in the country from first to last day of his rule, he actually ordered the army to drive (forcefully) into three cities known for their islamic background, atleast 300,000 people died on those days, egypt known as secular and the first to sign peace deal with Israel , algeria secular government fighting islamic movements, same as morroco kingdom , tunisia and lebanon possibly the most westernized countries of the middle east, u know about turkey, so we are left with Iran, Sudan, KSA in my point of view these are the only nations which have the biggest number of islamic elements in their governments,
1- if u look at KSA u must differentiate between the ruling family and the connections (or ties ) they have with the wahhaby movement, its the wahaby movement that supported abdulaziz to establish the kingdom, and rule it in-exchange for letting them (the wahabies) handle whatever got to do with religion in the country, it is my belief that the ruling family wouldnot dare oppress the wahaby movement (regardless of international pressure to do so) because they WILL lose the kingdom to riots and demonstrations.
2- If u look at Sudan when this military came to power in 1989 they were extremist , and tried to portray what they are doing as islamizing every aspect of life, but in 1999 the military wing(represented by albasheer todays presedent) of the government took out the civilian (ideological) part (represented by alturabi) which is the extremist element in the government , today extremists in the government are quite rare , but still hold some high places.
3- Iran is an old story u all know about it, Shiaa muslims control the country and government, trying to gather fluence over the whole region.
P.S. i read about a presidential candidate that has recently publicly stated that Mecca and Medina should be nuked if america is attacked , can u blame the Iranian president for saying he wants to wipe Israel of the face of the earth when this has been said by ur own president might be?