I think Ollie nails this one.

It's just a matter of respect, of which you apparently have none.

You are right about France helping the U.S. during our Revolutionary War, but since the U.S. has had to put enemies out of France twice I'd say the balance hangs in our favor.

It's bad when historians argue that the biggest accomplishment of the French Third Republic (which governed from after the Franco-Prussian War, which France surrendered in, to the beginning of WWII) was finding allies during WWI.
It took France SIX WEEKS after the German military engaged French military for France to surrender in WWII. Wow.

The people of France gave the Statue of Liberty, which is only what I can assume you mean, to the people of the United States over one hundred years ago in recognition of the friendship established during the American Revolution. Not for "kicking the redcoats' asses out of the Potomac river back to the Thames."

btw, I'm no history professor. You'd probably be surprised at what I do, but that has nothing to do with France, which also has nothing to do with this topic.

The French refused to give us a vote of confidence at the UN. Nobody asked them to commit anything. All we wanted was 1 vote. We were going to attack Iraq, with or without France.

The French are gutless when it comes to confrontations. They have proved to be a poor a partner in a war against anyone, so it came as no surprise when they failed to help us.

Their government can't even stand up to their own people, never mind a foreign country.

I think their wine sucks too.

Well, mon ami, that's the sign of a good government.

A good government should not go AGAINST its own people. If it does, that's what you call dictatorship or fascism. That's what I remember from middleschool's civic class.

Book smart and common sense are two different things.

The way it is v. the way it should be.

You are a weird kid, and I'm not looking to waste anymore time with you.

Start a topic about WWI and II if that's what you want to talk about.

Well, how can you develop commom sense if you don't have any, even some education (book smart?)

>>The way it is v. the way it should be<<

It is not garanteed that the way it should be is better than the way it is.

Sometimes leaving the way as it is, is better than to change it.

Sometimes leaving the way as it is, is better than to change it.

Why that us very conservative of you?

Well, if that's your opinion...!
For me I call that using common sense, conservatively or progressively.


But in politics I'm neutral.

I voted for Nixon the first time, not the second.

And I voted for Clinton the second time, not the first.

I didn't vote for Dubya both times, he's a liar. (My common sense)

Bonjour et bon weekend.

Well, if that's your opinion...!
For me I call that using common sense, conservatively or progressively.

But in politics I'm neutral.

And I voted for Clinton the second time, not the first.

I didn't vote for Dubya both times, he's a liar. (My common sense)

By the sound of it you get offended when someone calls you conservative? You can take it as a compliment is it makes you fell better.

I would consider you far left. No where near nuetral.

This is a good example. Clinton lied to you and the rest of the American public. Lied to Congress, got impeached over his lieing and then you call Bush the liar. If that is so what does that make clinton? The Devil? Do you have anything close to fact that bush is a worse liar, not hearsay or opinion. Fact like him lieing on national TV

>>I would consider you far left. No where near neutral<<

Your opinion, not mine.

>>Lied to you and the rest of the American public<<

That's right. But he lied to protect his marriage, nothing else.

>>Lied to Congress, got impeached...<<

Yes, Congress impeached but found him not guilty, even the Special Prosecutor found him not guilty of a criminal wrongdoing. Adultery is not a crime according to the law of our land.
Remember: "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit" ?

>>Do you have anything close to fact that Bush is a worse liar...<<

Bush lied about Iraq to get its oil, he killed more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians,
mostly women and children and he sacrificed more than 2300 young Americans (so far) for his adventures in Iraq. Clinton lied, nobody died !

Lusty Clinton, despite impeachment and more than $80million spent for nothing except to "entertain" the 'vast rightwing conspiracy' - hillary's voice - did get re-elected by a wide margin over Dole. BTW he didn't need the Supreme Court to get elected the first time, anyway.

Your opinion, not mine.

That's right. But he lied to protect his marriage, nothing else.

Yes, Congress impeached but found him not guilty, even the Special Prosecutor found him not guilty of a criminal wrongdoing. Adultery is not a crime according to the law of our land.

Bush lied about Iraq to get its oil, he killed more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians,
mostly women and children and he sacrificed more than 2300 young Americans (so far) for his adventures in Iraq. Clinton lied, nobody died !

Lusty Clinton, despite impeachment and more than $80million spent for nothing except to "entertain" the 'vast rightwing conspiracy' - hillary's voice - did get re-elected by a wide margin over Dole. BTW he didn't need the Supreme Court to get elected the first time, anyway.

did get re-elected by a wide margin over Dole.