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UCLA Cops Taser Student Repeatedly... Outragous Actions.

 
 
Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 08:42 pm
The whole article is posted here damn, found this on another site... (messed up crap)

This is an absolute outrage and my heart goes out to this student who had to indure this. It brings tears to my eyes to see someone that has authority over people like this abuse it so badly and harm innocent people.

I am so outraged right now it is unbelievable. I hope the people that are responsible for this rot in jail for the rest of their life. What pathetic individual could repeatedly do something like this? What ******* pigs.

My favorite part was
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Here's your Patriot Act, here's your ******* abuse of power


**** those cops for abusing their power. :no: :thumbdown:
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 09:01 pm
@Brent cv,
That's totally over the top for them to keep tasering him . They had him under control , they should have dragged him out rather than continuing to insist he "stand up " .
I have never been tasered , but I bet its not easy to get up and walk right away , otherwise , what is the tasering for ?
I hope the school doesn't try to cover this up or let the officers get away with it .
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 09:16 pm
@Brent cv,
Sorry Brent, you may get mad at me for saying so but i didn't see any abuse of power. He first refused to leave when security asked him too upon, no proof of being a student. IMO the police were within there right. He became beligerant to there authority. The police arrived to escort him out, if necessary by force. I have been escorted off of premises with my arm around my back up around my neck, nothing illegal about that. Upon his refusal to be touched after his refusal to leave, they deemed force was neccesary. They repeatedly asked him to stand or he would be tazed again, he choose not to stand. I don't see this making it to court but that just my opinion.
Brent cv
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 09:19 pm
@Brent cv,
He was tasored 3 times while in handcuffs. That was completely and utterly unnecessary.

The cops were creating an volatile atmosphere in the library upsetting the students with the abuse of power.

The student was posing no threat to anyone after the first tasor and was screaming of a medical condition that he had.

It was complete and utter abuse of power by the cops and they should be fired and prosecuted for it.

Period.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 10:06 pm
@Brent cv,
Time will tell.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2006 10:22 pm
@Drnaline,
I agree with Brent. Excessive use of force. That seems to be part of the culture of police in California.

"UCPD officers later confirmed that the man at the receiving end of the righteous tasering was a student, but didn't name him or give any further details."

Lawsuit 101.:thumbup: The school and the officers.
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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 12:49 am
@Brent cv,
None of us know what really happened because we weren't there. I had already seen this video and a discussion elsewhere and I thought about a few things as pertaining to things Ive been witness to in the past.

How many students would lie to help out a fellow student? College students arent known for honesty.. especially to Cops.

I dont know if its true or not but I saw a few comments from a couple of students who said they were there...who knows if they were or not. I couldnt find the quotes again.. there were over 1000 comments already.

The person said they dont let anyone in the library without an ID but this kid started yelling as soon as they asked him to leave. He wouldnt ID himself, they had no idea who he was or what he was doing there.

Can you Imagine what kind of crap the campus police have to put up with on a campus, and a Liberal campus at that? I wouldnt trust anyone either.

Another comment said the student was Persian and a jerk on campus.
In my former job I had contact with many "Middle Eastern" students and parents since most of our clientelle came from two large Colleges, they were usually very rude for the most part and difficult to deal with.

There is NO video of what happened before the screaming began. Why would the Cops go to such measures if the kid was compliant and doing what they asked? That's what doesn't make sense to me. Sorry, until more is proof is presented.. I side with the Cops. They say the kid was weak and couldnt stand.. but he was strong enough to scream at the top of his lungs.

Whoever is in the wrong needs to be punished severely.
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 12:54 am
@Brent cv,
If he was in the wrong and told to leave and he didn't the cops still went way to far with this. 4 tasers is just ridiculous. The kid was posing a threat to no one, was unarmed and there were ample Police to contain the kid without tasering the kid 4 times in front of 100's of students.
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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 01:09 am
@Brent cv,
I realize that.. but we can't see a thing on that video but a bunch of students butts for the most part. Who knows, maybe they've had run-ins with the kid before. We just don't know.
I see where you are coming from but theres no sense in getting upset over something we have absolutely no proof over. That tape shows nothing other than the kid was screaming his head off... which prooves nothing but good lungs.

Maybe the kid will be found innocent and come out with a book 10 years from now that says "This Is How I Would Get The Cops To Tazer Me If I Were Guilty" Smile
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 10:33 am
@GoodBoy,
Here is another write-up about the tazer incident.

Tasered student claims racial profiling - Yahoo! News
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markx15
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 12:42 pm
@Brent cv,
This is a delicate issue. On one side we have police officers who used extreme force in a case that was obviously out of their jurisdiction, on the other we have a student who was being purposly a pain in the ***. Even with his behaviour there was no need to taser him without warning first, and without contacting a library or school official capable to deal with such a scene as these men clearly were unable to do so. Of course the kid already has a good excuse for his atitude toward the police :
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Yagman said his client declined to show his school ID because he thought he was being targeted for his appearance. His family is of Iranian descent.
. The police acted rashly, but so do we all for judging them, as someone said earlier we weren't there to confirm or deny anything.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 06:35 pm
@Brent cv,
I'll wait to see when and if it gets to court.
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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 07:55 pm
@Brent cv,
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2006 08:22 pm
@GoodBoy,
I wonder why they tazered the guy for not getting up, then after they tazered him, they end up carring him out anyway? The cops need their twinkies tazered.Very Happy
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2006 09:08 am
@Brent cv,
What happens when you disobey a direct order from a peace officer? What ever they decide. I heard them tell him at least fifty times. Disobeying an order in itself is punishable by law.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2006 09:46 am
@Drnaline,
I'm wondering why he was tazered in the first place. He wasn't a threat to the public.As far as I could tell from the video, the only threat the student posed was a threat to the officers ego.

The student was tazered because of frustration, not because he posed a threat to anyone.
ANAV
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2006 10:17 am
@Brent cv,
He immediately played the "I'm a victim" role when he claimed he was singled out by his appearance, and not comply with showing his ID card. So I refuse to have any pity for him. He don't like the rules, he can take his butt back to Iran.

At one point he told the police to "#### OFF." That alone should of bought him a kick in the teeth. Police are about respect, you show the proper respect they deserve to be shown and follow orders or else.

How can anybody say this was an abuse of power when the police were neutralizing a potential threat. How many school shootings have there been this year? Would you have considered it an abuse of power if the police repeatedly tazered the maniacs at Columbine High School if they had been tipped prior to the shooting. The police have to make judgment calls and we have no business judging them unless we have been in that situation ourselves.

Personally I enjoyed listening to the disrespectful kid squeal like a pig. He got what he deserved. But the city will settle and he will get paid for being an idiot.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2006 10:26 am
@ANAV,
So what threat did he pose?
GoodBoy
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2006 01:13 pm
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed;6979 wrote:
So what threat did he pose?


We don't know if he was or wasn't a threat. ( Well, we know NOW he wasn't one.. he screamed too much like a 12 year old girl at a Justin Timberlake concert)

He had already refused to comply to the Jr officer (or whoever it was) and didn't leave, thats when the police were called. The officers had no idea who he was or what he was doing. When Police fail to be suspicious, they can die. 10 years ago.. a school shooting was an isolated incedent. Not anymore. The kid was either stupid, or trying to provoke. If he had good intentions, why didnt he leave when asked the first time.. or the second.. he had a chance and refused to comply.

Why didnt he leave when asked BEFORE the police got there?
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2006 01:25 pm
@GoodBoy,
GoodBoy;6983 wrote:
We don't know if he was or wasn't a threat. ( Well, we know NOW he wasn't one.. he screamed too much like a 12 year old girl at a Justin Timberlake concert)

He had already refused to comply to the Jr officer (or whoever it was) and didn't leave, thats when the police were called. The officers had no idea who he was or what he was doing. When Police fail to be suspicious, they can die. 10 years ago.. a school shooting was an isolated incedent. Not anymore. The kid was either stupid, or trying to provoke. If he had good intentions, why didnt he leave when asked the first time.. or the second.. he had a chance and refused to comply.

Why didnt he leave when asked BEFORE the police got there?


Have you ever been tazered? I think I would be screaming too.:wtf:

How would the students actions pose a threat?
 

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