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Everybody Loved Them; I Cringed

 
 
eoe
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2004 09:51 pm
I don't know what frame of mind you need to be in to appreciate those movies. Along with that gross American Pie series. Those movies aren't for us tho, mac 11. They're created for twelve year old boys.
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mac11
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2004 10:37 pm
...And for adults who like to pretend that they're 12 year old boys... Rolling Eyes
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 03:57 am
A Man Apart. Ho-hum.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 11:51 am
Piffka, IMO Helen Mirren is a major talent. I ran into her at my doctor's office. I was in awe. And I don't awe easily.

Primal Fear went for the surprise ending--and succeeded, I think. Aaron and Roy. :-)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 11:55 am
I liked Austin Powers!

YOU RAN INTO HELEN MIRREN!? Wow. Yes, she's amazing. "Prime Suspect" is still what I think of first, but she's done a lot of great stuff.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 12:08 pm
I liked Austin Powers I and II. They were meant for dumb, shaggadelic, nostalgic fun.
Goldmember dissapointed me. Maybe the joke grew too long for my taste.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 06:20 pm
Soz, Yes, I think of Prime Suspect too when I think of Helen Mirren. But she's got great range. My throat doctor is doctor to the stars (and me). Helen was in a Broadway show at the time.

Didn't see any of the Austin Powers movies. They just don't appeal to me.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 01:09 am
Roberta wrote:
Didn't see any of the Austin Powers movies. They just don't appeal to me.


Me neither.

So, did you speak to Helen Mirren? Did she look the same??? Tell, tell.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 06:08 am
She looked exactly like herself. Exactly!!! She also sounded exactly like herself. I was in awe. She dropped something and I lept to get it for her. She said for me not to bother; she could get it. She smiled. I was in awe. BTW, she shoulda wore a slip. Her outfit was a creamy cashmere looking combo--sweater and skirt. Why the slip? VPL.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 09:57 am
Oh, and she looks so good in cream colors; brings out her own color, pale though it is. Too bad about the VPL. Very Happy

I'll bet you enjoy going to that specialist and seeing who might be there.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:03 am
Took me a minute... very pretty lingerie?

This woman starred in "The Cook, The Thief, The Wife, and Her Lover" wearing pretty much nothing but visible panties and bras and bustiers and such, prolly doesn't phase her. Very Happy
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Roberta
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:36 am
Soz, I don't remember her wearing underwear in that movie. I'm sure that the VPL was not a concern.

I've had a few encounters at this doctor's office. But I usually ask if someone famous is coming. I don't want to be there. Famous types get special treatment, which pisses me off--and makes me wait. Wanna know who else I've run into at this office? Liza with a Z. William Peterson (from CSI), Lauren Bacall, Lionel Ritchie, and somebody else I can't remember. I missed Celine Dion by a day.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:59 am
Liza Minelli seems to have such a sad, hard life. I hope that she was nice. And Lionel Ritchie? Wow... all these singers!

Lauren Bacall... well??? Tell, tell. I don't know the CSI, but I'll look it up. (Okay. Handsome but I don't recognize him.)

Wasn't someone talking here about Autumn Tale? It is on the Independent Film Channel at noon.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 02:42 pm
That could make one shy off of going to celebrity doctors, Roberta.

I went to one when I live in Hollywood and it was the same thing also I did get to meet a lot of famous people (while they were ushered into the doctor's office ahead of me -- even though I arrived earlier!)
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Greyfan
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 04:51 pm
Lightwiz--

You may never like "Unbreakable" and I'm okay with that. I think Shamalyan felt some pressure to stick another surprise ending on after the success of "The Sixth Sense". It seems as if the whole point of "Signs" was to set up the ending, whereas "Unbreakable" could have ended in a lot of ways, some possibly better than the ending chosen, which was more jarring than suspenseful I thought, although I did warm up to it upon reflection. I think a better ending would be Bruce Willis drowning in the pool, which would still leave the question of his "super powers" unresolved.

I hope Shamalyan's next film will abandon the surprise ending gimmick. He needs to move on.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 05:10 pm
I would call them trick endings and unlike "The Usual Suspects," absolutely no fun in getting there.
Too much angst and not enough flavor. I find he doesn't explore his characters as much as subverting them. The little boy in "The Sixth Sense" somewhat tempered this but Mel Gibson as the angry-at-God martyr in "Signs" was just to much to take. Then when he decided to play it safe and show the aliens (rather than something like the Robert Wise "The Haunting"), it destroyed the entire mystery. He does have possibilities but he's not a great director yet. All I can say is that I would be brave to watch "Unbrekable" again because I don't believe his films are worth watching again, the ultimate test of any great film.
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Greyfan
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 05:40 pm
"Unbreakable" is the only Shamalyan film in my collection and I have no plans to add the other two, even though I enjoyed them (once).

I add DVDs of films which I find myself watching many times- if I am flipping through the channels and end up watching bits of a film every time I come across it, I know I have a candidate for purchase.

However, in my case at least, this list is not synonomous with my list of great films. For example, I have a copy of "Zardoz", which is far from a great film but interesting to me, along with "Unbreakable", which I think is good but not great; and yet I do NOT have "Glory", which I believe is superior to either of these by a wide margin, or "Dead Man Walking", in which Sean Penn gives the best performance I have ever seen, simply because they are both too painful to watch repeatedly. I probably never enjoyed a film more on first viewing than "Back to the Future", but I have no plans to buy it either, because, having seen it, the spontenaeity which made it so entertaining to me is now lost.

But that's just me. Oh, I do occasionally purchase a film simply because the price is right. Some DVDs are worth it at $5, for example, but I wouldn't have bought them at $15.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 05:52 pm
I'm somewhat the same way -- I often add films that I think are entertaining for guests and I like them enough to watch again. "The Fifth Element" is one of those -- I like the style of the production design, Willis' and Gary Oldman's very tongue-in-chic (sic) performances and, of course, the Blue Diva with the Windex for blood. I just might make them sit down and watch "Woman in the Dunes" which is also in my collection after I do a short commentary on what they should look for in the film. So far, so good, as everyone has marveled on how they could have missed such a good movie.

I would have trouble getting through "Glory" and "Dead Man Walking" again but I can watch "Back to the Future" again with some company who maybe hasn't seen it in a long time.

You must really luck out as I've never found any really good movies in an acceptable transfer at under $8.00 (and I have found they are priced that way because a new DVD transfer is in the works with some judicious restoration and I'll end up buying it again at a higher price). The one film I've regretted they haven't touched as far as restoration is "Things to Come." Of course, these days many people are put off by its advocating a technocracy. GWB has lately been paraphrazing some lines from the film lately and very badly.
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 11:59 pm
I love Signs, Moulin Rouge, Chicago, all three LOTRs, I liked all three American Pies, All three Austin Powers, A.I., Fight Club, Memento, Romeo and Juilet (Dicaprio and Danes), X-Men, X-men2, Spider-Man.

I really dislike Gladator. Once was enough. I thought Russel Crow blew in that movie. His character was so boring and one dimentional it was slight funny he was nominated for best actor and won. Where as the best part of that movie Mr. Pheonix was not nominated and was ignored for his great upstaging. He would be the only reason I would watch that movie again - with my finger on the fast foward to pass Crow.

Shakespear In Love - ick. not sick ick. It isn't even worth the s. Okay it wasn't that bad but it wasn't that good. It wasn't good enough to beat out Saving Private Ryan. There is no way. Saving Private Ryan should have won. That was horrible and that is why I will never see that movie again. Ick.

Shrek - Okay I like this move but I don't like who created it and the reasons it was made. Which tantes the liking of the movie. It was created because the person did not like how Beauty and the Beast focused on beauty and had the Beast turn into a hansome prince. So why not have the princess turn into an Oger. Yeah that shows great diffrince. It is the same thing. They are both pretty or they are both ugly. Let the princess just stay the same and then you would have made a statment. I just thought that reasoning was so stupid.

Analyize This - I laughed but not enough. It wasn't that funny and I did not see it until two years after it was made so it had nothing really to do with the hype that it had carried. The second one was coming out I wanted to see it so I rented this movie and after that I didn't need to see the second one.

Star Wars - Here is a great concept with great character but a horrible horrible director. This movie - as do all set up movies for triologies- was showcasing the characters. Fine. But to do it so boringly makes me gag. The Empire Strikes back was a great movie. But he didn't direct that one and it shows.

Gone With the Wind - If only it was that quick. What a slow and long and drawn out movie. I was starting to wish I was the mule or horse or whatever she was beating to death. Well I did feel like that watching this movie. Yawn.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jan, 2004 04:30 am
Piffka, I didn't meet Lionel or Liza. We were just there at the same time, and I saw them I spoke with Peterson. He seemed like a nice man. Lauren came to the doctor with her Papillon. Our only exchange was when she told me not to step on him. Like I would step on a dog. I asked the doctor if I could bring Mikey with me on my next visit. She just looked at me.

I'm chummy with the appointment people. I ask them for the least busy time--when no celebrities are scheduled. The only reason that Lauren and I ended up there on the same day was that I was schedule after her. I wouldn't accept an appointment before a celebrity. They show up, and I'm bumped.

Grayfan, I agree that there are some movies that are very good, but don't inspire me to see them again. Either the spontaneity is gone, or they're too depressing. And then there are some movies I can watch over and over.
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