mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 08:47 am
@giujohn,
You can't, simply, define 'nothing' as 'whatever' and expect your definition to be valid.
'Nothing' is the absence of anything/everything.
'NO-THING'
It's not paradoxical - It's IMPOSSIBLE.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 11:45 am
@mark noble,
The question is: do "things" exist as givens or as constructions? (or both?)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 11:46 am
@JLNobody,
Both.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 11:53 am
@JLNobody,
That's not the question at all..
I have no idea what 'givens' even means?
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MWal
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 11:54 am
@mark noble,
Nothing exist as a keeper of hatred, as hatred is considered nothing on many levels.

Anyone else confused on the topics of nothingness and hatred? Like they do exist, but they don't.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 11:59 am
@MWal,
You have a mental condition that most people would call "idiotic."
MWal
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 01:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Whatever. All good things considered rape and murder are seriously nothing and need to be left alone.
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JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2014 09:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You still subscribe to what most people think.

This is your issue that you're forcing on others.
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One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2014 09:12 pm
Nothing is but a concept - it's when a concept becomes a construct, that makes it something.

An idea is nothing, as there are many ideas in our head left unattended, but when an idea becomes a construct, it then becomes something.
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room109
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2014 11:10 am
@mark noble,
to the being you are non being to the non being your are being
mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2014 05:52 pm
@room109,
What is a 'non-being'? How can something 'not be'?
room109
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2014 01:13 am
@mark noble,
it is a thing that is beyound our knowelege of it.
it is a thing that is of no form.
it is lacking
it = 0
it is relitive to the subject when it is repersented as 0 in objects.
in mind it is a state of doing witout thinking or inherently knowing.
it is in body as decay and death and the end of the karma cycle.
in the meta realitly it is the super form whic is non form that preceds all form.

for example atoms are made up of empty space...
room109
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2014 01:16 am
@mark noble,
it is something that is not precevied.

by igorance it can not be.

it is there but no knowelge is know of it

focus on something unfamilar to your sences and learn what you do not know.
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room109
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2014 01:16 am
@JLNobody,
the mind makes it real neo
One Eyed Mind
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2014 05:19 am
@room109,
The mind is nothing more than the puppet of a puppet master (The Universe).
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Doorsopen
 
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Reply Thu 25 Sep, 2014 08:12 am
@mark noble,
Yes. But it's not what we think it is. In my view nothingness is the infinite state of potentiality which simultaneously contains all of existence as well as all non-existence.
mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2014 11:37 am
@room109,
Atoms aren't made up of empty-space, at all. Who taught you that?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2014 11:48 am
Is the expression...

...THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR...

...the ultimate reassurance...

...or the ultimate threat and terror?

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mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2014 11:49 am
@Doorsopen,
What is 'non-existence'?
How does one measure or sense 'something' that 'Isn't'?
A 'view' is, indeed, important - Some of my own appear inconsistent or, somewhat, presumptious, to others. But they certainly reside in the realm of physical possibility.
A 'non-existant' "thing" Cannot exist or 'be' a 'thing' by its own definition.
Do you agree that inexistence is exactly that?
Doorsopen
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2014 10:49 am
@mark noble,
Everything which exists, or ever will exist, or ever has existed can be said to co-exist and has emerged from a field of potentiality of which these events form a part. As any event emerges from this field, it negates the potential for another dissimilar event from emerging at that same space and time. I'm describing this non-occurring event as 'non-existence'.

Its qualities could be measured, I suppose, by negation. If event x occurs as 78 degrees, the non-occurring event did not take place in a range of temperature with a range that does not include 78 degrees.

I'm sorry if I appear to be presumptuous, not my intention. I enjoy putting ideas out there to better understand where a possible answer may lay. It strikes me that science is obliged to build upon its own foundations, but philosophy may cast aside preconceived body of knowledge to consider an alternate potential.
 

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