DOES NOTHING EXIST???

...further, those property´s are themselves smaller order functions in between a even smaller order of property´s and so on...
...eventually you get to an ultimate non caused nature (property/truth/form), which is the algorithmic entry point to the final set of all sets of functions, itself a function on the exit point, and which, I even dare speculate, that probably equals the prime form !
(a bit like in fractal sequences)

...a function can only be established with an entry and exit point...completeness that is or the true meaning of the word FORM !

...did you read what I wrote above ?
"Form" or "mass" are themselves lower level functions of something else...which bottom line eventually reach some form of mandatory base non caused law "thingness"...it may be the case that you want to call that physical, but such thing has nothing to do with the physical you experience...I rather call it True Nature or Final Nature instead...oh, and of course nothing does not exist !

...yep, its great when we can actually get to explain in a minimal satisfactory manner that which we know being the case while find it hard to convey it adequately...

guigus

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Well, either you are saying that the word "nothing" does not exist or that whatever it means, which is no thing at all, does not exist. Since the word obviously exists, let us concentrate whatever it means.

If no thing at all does not exist, then everything exists, meaning either that:

your on the wrong track of reasoning here

nothing is about the absence of something

whereas , no-thing is a discussion about , a thing or things themselves

Being cannot be fully negated, namely its possibility...and obviously all words have constrains...that´s precisely how we know what they mean...in practical terms nothing can only negate actuality´s...if it were to negate possibility´s its own possibility would be negated becoming non rational and thus vanishing from meaning anything...now we know it is the case that the word has some pragmatical use...

...what people must realise regarding this issue is, absence of what ? without a WHAT there´s nothing to be absent...so possibility´s cannot be negated at any instance...

nothingness is nothing

I will reply to you just this once out of the sheer nonsense that you just did post precisely because you just did finally admit that :

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nothingness is nothing

...meaning there's no nothing.

(and that's it, you are on my ignore list and will stay there so don't bother replying as I will read no further from you)

north wrote:

guigus

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Well, either you are saying that the word "nothing" does not exist or that whatever it means, which is no thing at all, does not exist. Since the word obviously exists, let us concentrate whatever it means.

If no thing at all does not exist, then everything exists, meaning either that:

your on the wrong track of reasoning here

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I'm just following the logical consequences of what a word means, namely, "nothing." And that word, "nothing," means no thing, right? So, unless that is not what that word means, I am not only in the right track, but also in the only possible track. Any other track will lead you nowhere.

north wrote:

nothing is about the absence of something

The word "nothing" means the absence of everything: it means no thing. Of course you can restrict its context, by which it will mean the absence of everything in a certain context, which is what you refer by "the absence of something," but this is up to you, and it is optional: the word itself has no restriction.

north wrote:

whereas , no-thing is a discussion about , a thing or things themselves

The word nothing is the negation of all things, even though possibly within a certain context. But any restriction you impose on it will always be arbitrary and accidental: the only necessary and essential meaning of nothing is the negation of all being---no thing. And the only serious way of thinking about a meaning is by disregarding any arbitrary limits imposed on it.