Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 09:54 pm
single loss of life since the Iraq war began.


(2) "that be drawn up" ? What is its tense? Future tense? Meant "that will be drawn up"?

Context:
The plan for a new Iraqi government reflected Washington's desire to speed up the handover of power as attacks against American occupation forces grow more sophisticated and deadly. The Bush administration dropped its insistence that a constitution be drawn up and elections held before the transfer takes places.

Thank you in anticipation.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 05:41 am
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single loss of life


oristarA- In this context, "single" refers to an individual incident.

[quote]be drawn up [/quote]

Right- that phrase does imply a future tense. It could have said "was to be drawn up", or "would be drawn up"!
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 06:14 am
Correct

Cool
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 06:46 am
Incorrect.

It's a subjunctive, like

"Let it be...", or

"Be he alive or be he dead, I'll grind his bones to make my bread", or

"Be that as it may...."

Not easy to understand for learners, Oristar, but look up "Subjunctive" in your grammar book.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 06:49 am
McTag wrote:

Not easy to understand for learners, Oristar, but look up "Subjunctive" in your grammar book.


Well, would be the same construction in Latin, French and German - those three languages, I know a little bit besides English :wink:
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 08:29 am
I'm sorry BTW if I appeared to be rude back then, that was not my intention.

At work, we in my office often say "Correct!" and "Incorrect!" to each other, and we mean it in a jokey way. So sorry about that, I did not mean to be abrupt.

Embarrassed

I should have said "Sorry to disagree, but my opinion is...."
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2003 12:13 pm
Thank you all.

McTag, in my grammar book, I found out that is a use of the present subjunctive. Logically speaking, there is no future subjunctive.

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What remains a puzzle now is that I didn't get "elections held". Does it actually mean "elections be held"?
TIA
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princessash185
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2003 12:32 pm
Yes, it does. . . when you are going to say two things, here "be drawn up" and "election be held", you can leave out the shared element in the second- usually a verb or a "the" or so.

For the grammatically-minded, that's called elipsis, and the phenomenon that occurs when you have two similarly-phrased clauses is called a parallel structure or parallelism :-)
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2003 02:04 pm
Thanks Princess. Smile

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The last question:

Does the "constitution" mean Iraq constitution?

TIA
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 17 Nov, 2003 02:48 pm
Most certainly.
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