@Aedes,
Aedes;108874 wrote:It doesn't matter -- do you speak French? Do you have any idea how many written characters go unpronounced? Travaillent is pronounced "travai". They seem to be doing ok.
I don't speak french, no. I'm familiar with danish which also has lots of unnecessary letters. Danish, like english, lacks a recent language reform.
That they are doing ok is not a good reason to believe that there english could not be improved by removing unnecessary letters.
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Aedes;108886 wrote:I agree it's cumbersome. I don't agree it's worth changing.
For a native speaker it's not cumbersome at all -- it is what it is.
For someone learning the language, it's a different matter. If you know another Romance language, then the current French spelling is extremely easy because the conjugation is basically the same as in Spanish, Italian, etc, and it might be harder to learn if you just "simplified" the words. If you don't know another Romance language, it sure seems cumbersome.
And it is cumbersome. That native speakers don't notice it is not a good reason to believe that it is not cumbersome. Indeed the best way, it seems to me, to learn the cumbersomeness of our native language
is to study a different language. I've learned a lot about danish by learning german. That is an interesting fact.
Aedes;108886 wrote:But whom are we trying to help by simplifying words? "Lite" has become somewhat standard; does that mean we'll all have a "rite" hand?
Everyone. The alphabetic principle especially helps non-natives. Many people are presumably an-alphabetic because of poor language.
Aedes;108886 wrote:Sometimes just letting things take their own course is better than trying to force them.
Maybe, but irrelevant until it has been shown that it is the case with language. It has merely been stated, repeated and re-mentioned in this thread. I doubt (notice this word, how is someone supposed to know that the B is mute?) that any arguments are coming forth for this anytime soon. People are reluctant to argue but simply state their disagreement. It is like discussing politics.