@Dichanthelium,
Dichanthelium wrote:It reminds me of a question that I often ponder. Why did not a religion grow out of the teachings and practices of Socrates? He even had a supernatural endorsement from the oracle at Delphi, and he died a martyr. My hypothesis is that the Socratic approach never became popular, perhaps because it requires too much mental discipline and/or creates a frame of mind that conflicts with one's day to day responsibilities.
An immensely interesting question!
Robert Thurman (eminent western scholar of Buddhism, the first westerner to be ordained as a Tibetan Buddhist monk) argues that Buddhism is not a religion.
If we look at the Socratic method, it is the precursor to Aristotle's logic. One could argue that the traditional of Greek philosophy, which is an Axial Age development just as the Buddha's teachings, was the same sort of movement: what it lacked was an organizer. That seems to be the most prominent difference; the Buddha managed to get significant support from the emerging merchant class as well as the ruling elites and the Buddha also managed to enrapture a large number of disciples.
Where Socrates was a teacher and martyr, the Buddha was a teacher and organizer.
I do not think the Socratic method can accurately be said to require any more mental discipline than any other related practice. Monks, in every tradition, often develop rigorous mental practices.
Dichanthelium wrote:So, maybe the teachings and practices have to rise to some level of popularity before we begin to think of them as belonging to a religion.
Let's try this:
"Religion is any more or less popular and enduring set of teachings and practices understood by the adherents to provide insight concerning the ultimate meaning of existence and guidance concerning how they ought to live."
The problem here is that we would then have to admit that Christianity is a religion, but would not be a religion if it never gained popularity. Maybe that is accurate considering the way we use the word, if we are to include Buddhism in the category 'religion'.
I am beginning to wonder if this term religion really does not mean very much at all...