What Is the Best Form of Government?

Well MFTP, it sounds as though you're going to have to find, and found, your own country - a nation of one. That can be done, it just takes money and influence. Barring that, you had better figure out how to make government of the people, by the people, for the people work best for you.

I would gladly found my own country, if the one I am currently owned by would let me. I'll fence off an acre and contract out all of my needs.

Hell, I'd even allow my community to make public government decisions. I can meet with them and explain my position and we can all know exactly what caliber of person our representatives are in our dealings with other groups.

Ultimately I just need to get the US out of my life.

My community? That seems a curious, even contradictory relationship to the style of regime you envision. You'll contract out your own needs to whom? The same state and municipal authorities that already vex you.

I suppose it's hypothetically doable to have your own acre without criminal law or law enforcement but then you would very quickly be overwhelmed by intruders taking advantage of that. Perhaps BrightNoon would show up swinging grenades.

No, I think the closest you're going to get is to take up residence deep in the woods, many miles into the wilderness where you'll be free from all forms of taxation, free from law enforcement and all that troubles you.

Honestly you people are putting so much trust into an entity that is inherently prone to become corrupt (history is riddled with this). All collectivist forms of government, or welfare state, creates a class of dependent people. Fascist, Totalitarian, and Absolute governments have no corruption, because there is no dissent; those three are also the most oppresive as well. Democracy is in my opinion as the worst form of popular government as that majority will become the oppressive, because there is no limitations on the majority.

Honestly you people are putting so much trust into an entity that is inherently prone to become corrupt (history is riddled with this). All collectivist forms of government, or welfare state, creates a class of dependent people. Fascist, Totalitarian, and Absolute governments have no corruption, because there is no dissent; those three are also the most oppresive as well. Democracy is in my opinion as the worst form of popular government as that majority will become the oppressive, because there is no limitations on the majority.

There is so such thing as a general perfect form of government. All people who institute government for their common benefit, general welfare(welfare as defined as the well-being of the people), and common protection. As government needs to be situated into what the governed thinks is expediant.

Every governed people sets up a different type of government. These forms of government are usually set up in the conditions that they deem bad.

The major flaw of government is that it is inherently corrupting as it is a very powerful institution. Big business does not and can not compare to big government, but both are extremely destructive. Sadly, government is a necessary evil. A society without government either that be standing bodies or laws cannot function, just like a system with too much laws.

I don't believe government can be perfect, but it can be set up to fit the common benefit of the governed.

I personally believe in a extremely limited government with an expressed powers list much like the texas constitution and the federal constitution.
Sadly, they are dependant upon two factors: strict constructionism and an educated governed.

I support a libertaruan style of society ie in rights, freedoms and definitely on government. This society would be socially ordered according to conservative and religious ideals. This society would have a laissez-fairre/anarcho capitalism. And for the government, i believe that it should be a Confederate Republic. Confederate is defined as a government made of several different sovereignties that retain more power within such sovereignties and closer to the people, and a republic defined as a a representative polity established on fundamental/constitutional law, with the power in the majority, but it is extremely limited and constrained(mainly as undeniable rights being retained by every individual and equal protection under the law). A polity is setup to have a more prestigous upper house and a general lower house, or in other words the upper hous would consist of wealthier people, and the lower of every person.

In this society, each person has the right to pursue and fulfill his or her unobtrusive vision of the good life. In such a society, the common good is the cumulative product of free and equal individuals who pursue meaningful aims. I already know that this would centralize wealth to a center point or an extreme point, so to avoid this the more local government (equivalent to the States of the United States) should hold economic regulatory power.

The most ideal government as i see it is that the government has to have the consent of the governed, and is extremely limited. I prefer how the United States were setup when it had rarified the Federal Constitution and in first few years.

As an odd side note, lobbyism should be extinct and illegal.

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Fido, do you have an extreme hate towards the rich? Have you ever been employed by a poor man?

As long as it's not a One World Government, I'm fine.

I noticed that there is not a thread on what the ideal form of government would look like, so I thought I would start one considering this moment in time now would be an ideal time to figure out what type of government would be best to govern a people.

Things to consider: What is the purpose of government? Why do we even need a government? What would the ideal government do, and what should it represent? How does justice influence government? Which is more effective, authoritarianism or democracy? Can basic rights be upheld in either? What about education?

- Imo the ideal goverment may lie in the dictatorial regime, but with an intelligent dictator. He can very effeciently deal with problems, and not having to debate it, no idiots to slow the process by claiming the right to be heard, etc.
The successor part is the problem, too much feuds are a huge problem.

with democrasy you have too much bickering, but in the long term are the most stabil form, the successor role is nullifyed and thereby no deteriorating dispute for power.

Would this be someone like Frederick the Great of Prussia?

Don't know tbh. I had more Catharin the Great from Russia in mind.

I noticed that there is not a thread on what the ideal form of government would look like, so I thought I would start one considering this moment in time now would be an ideal time to figure out what type of government would be best to govern a people.

Things to consider: What is the purpose of government? Why do we even need a government? What would the ideal government do, and what should it represent? How does justice influence government? Which is more effective, authoritarianism or democracy? Can basic rights be upheld in either? What about education?

This is an interesting discussion, but you folks are talking mostly structure rather than fundamentals.

People collaborate in a lot of different ways; clubs, corporations, foundations, businesses, etc etc.

And governments.

Government is the only agency which takes upon itself the moral sanction to use force to accomplish it's goals, so the first question to answer is "what goals are properly accomplished by the use of physical coercion?"

The mechanics of the government would follow from the most effective way to accomplish those goals.

Well?

The only ideal of government should be the republicanist dogma of "The Rule of The Majority, and The Protection of The Minority." (in the broad sense).

For those who think that democracy is the best, democracy, as i said before, has been skewed to the point of being republicanism (not beliefs of the party). True, democracy is the sovereign power of the majority. Yes, majorities guides the decisions, but you can't claim that is democratic as that they only have certain delegated powers. Democracy is not the most stable. It creates factions and polarization, eventually. Sadly, i don't believe there is a stablest form of government---essentially it is the relationship of the governed and the government.