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Mon 7 Jun, 2010 10:59 am
Helen Thomas announced her retirement this morning.
Helen Thomas, under siege about Israel comments, retires
By Steven Thomma | McClatchy Newspapers
6/7/10
WASHINGTON " Helen Thomas, the longest serving White House correspondent, retired Monday after comments she made about Israel over the weekend drew condemnation from both the White House and the White House Correspondents Association.
Hearst News Service announced Thomas's retirement in a news story transmitted Monday morning. The story said her retirement was immediate.
"I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians," the story quote Thomas as saying. "They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.’’
Thomas will mark her 90th birthday on Aug. 4.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday that Thomas's comments, in which she said Jews should leave Israel and return to Europe, were reprehensible. The White House Correspondents Association called them indefensible.
The association's board also said it was reconsidering Thomas’s special seat in the front row of the White House briefing room.
"I think those remarks were offensive and reprehensible," Gibbs said when asked about her comments at Monday’s press briefing.
"I think she should and has apologized. Because, obviously, those remarks …do not reflect, certainly, the opinion of, I assume, most of the people in here and certainly not of the administration."
Thomas did not attend Monday morning's briefing, which feaetured Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the administration's point man on the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
Thomas was asked about Israel on May 27. The video was recorded by the website RabbiLive.com on the day the White House held a Jewish Heritage event. The video was released Friday.
"Any comments on Israel," an offscreen voice asks Thomas.
“Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine,” Thomas says.
“Where should they go?” the offscreen voice asks.
She responds that they should go home to Germany, Poland or the United States.
After a special meeting Monday, the correspondents’ association board issued a statement condemning Thomas’s comments.
“Helen Thomas' comments were indefensible and the White House Correspondents Association board firmly dissociates itself from them,” the group said.
"Many in our profession who have known Helen for years were saddened by the comments, which were especially unfortunate in light of her role as a trail blazer on the White House beat.
“While Helen has not been a member of the WHCA for many years, her special status in the briefing room has helped solidify her as the dean of the White House press corps so we feel the need to speak out strongly on this matter.
“We want to emphasize that the role of the WHCA is to represent the White House press corps in its dealings with the White House on coverage-related issues. We do not police the speech of our members or colleagues. We are not involved at all in issuing White House credentials, that is the purview of the White House itself.
“But the incident does revive the issue of whether it is appropriate for an opinion columnist to have a front row seat in the WH briefing room. That is an issue under the jurisdiction of this board. We are actively seeking input from our association members on this important matter, and we have scheduled a special meeting of the WHCA board on Thursday to decide on the seating issue.”
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Helen Thomas announced her retirement this morning.
The old TOAD will be missed... she was a hoot.
We can only hope Obama will announce his retirement very soon.
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Journalists have lost their code of honor. They are printing or broadcasting 'off the cuff' remarks or unguarded moments which are not the views of the organization involved but as private individuals. These journalist shouldlose their license.
Helen Thomas should have lost her credentials years ago, she has been asking rude and personal questions of presidential administrations since George Washington and has obviously been senile for decades. I say good riddance Helen but hope you find a nice nursing home in florida for your remaining, reclining years.
I could not figure out 20 years ago why she was still there, and she has been having trouble staying employed of late. I have no doubt that she was told to either quit or be fired.
Quote:Helen Thomas was held out as the dean of the White House press corps and accorded special privileges. Like it or not, she was part of our public face. Many thought it cute that the president honored her with cupcakes. And they cheered her brazen questions at White House press conferences. I, for one, cringed at what I considered her increasingly inappropriate behavior. It is one thing to ask a hard-hitting question to elicit real information and an entirely separate matter to grandstand for attention. Thomas long ago crossed a line and she finally ended up paying the price. It’s a sad end to her life’s work, but even sadder is how the rest of the media were willing to go along for the ride.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/06/we_made_too_many_excuses_for_h.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
@hawkeye10,
Once again the Isralie collition shows us that anyone who says something bad about Israel is dead meat. If they dont get you Mossid will.
If Helen Thomas's remarks were aimed at the country, that the country of Israel should be dismembered, then there is nothing at all wrong with that. If a country can be made, it can be unmade. There are many today, including many Jews, and many orthodox Jews, who do not believe that there should be a country specifically for Jews.
Does the WH, that noted intellectual, Finn d'Abuzz and the press corp get all in a lather about that? No, they avoid it like the plague, fearing that such ideas will spread.
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
If Helen Thomas's remarks were aimed at the country, that the country of Israel should be dismembered, then there is nothing at all wrong with that. If a country can be made, it can be unmade. There are many today, including many Jews, and many orthodox Jews, who do not believe that there should be a country specifically for Jews.
Does the WH, that noted intellectual, Finn d'Abuzz and the press corp get all in a lather about that? No, they avoid it like the plague, fearing that such ideas will spread.
Are you forgetting that Israel exists as a nation state specifically because, after WWII, all other countries did not want the survivors of the Final Solution in their backyard? Do you hear any nations saying, "Yes, yes, give be six million Israeli Jews quickly. Faster, the crowds are starting to shout, 'We want Jews now in our country.'"
Not all Jews in the world want to spend their one existence living amongst loving Gentiles. Just like many Gentiles do not want to spend their one existence living amongst loving Jews. Not everyone is cosmopolitan.
@Foofie,
Quote:Are you forgetting that Israel exists as a nation state specifically because, after WWII, all other countries did not want the survivors of the Final Solution in their backyard?
Hardly a sound plan upon which a nation should be founded, especially when one considers that you steal others lands to do so.
Quote:Not all Jews in the world want to spend their one existence living amongst loving Gentiles. Just like many Gentiles do not want to spend their one existence living amongst loving Jews. Not everyone is cosmopolitan.
There are only what, 7 and a half million Jews in Israel. The USA and Gt Britain could easily absorb those numbers. Finn would have no problem giving up his land and house. I personally have no problem living amongst Jews.
@JTT,
Quote:There are only what, 7 and a half million Jews in Israel. The USA and Gt Britain could easily absorb those numbers. Finn would have no problem giving up his land and house. I personally have no problem living amongst Jews.
the US would take them all in a heartbeat......
Helen Thomas is the daughter of Lebanese immigrants, and that may color her views with respect to Palestine. She has long been an aggressive and sometimes controversial reporte, and has offended self important political figures of the left and right many times over the years. I find her abrupt dismissal for merely stating an honest opinion about a topical and important political matter exceedingly hypocritical, and suggestive of an idiotic and increasingly oppressive orthodoxy of political correctitude. Certainly the current Administration, given the President's apologies to Islam accompanied by widespread ass (and hand) kissing around the Arab world, is far more a threat to Israel than poor old Helen's comment. Their scolding of her was hypocritical in the extreme.
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
She'd become an embarrassment. Overdue departure.
@georgeob1,
Quote:Their scolding of her was hypocritical in the extreme
it would be if anyone was claiming that freedom of speech is a good thing. What is said however is that individuals are not allowed to say certain unappealing or unpopular things. The truth of the offending words is completely besides the point.
Harsh restrictions are placed upon Communications and ideas in America, which is going to make it very difficult to solve our problems.
@Lash,
As we all do, Lash, when we get to be her age. From childhood back to childhood.
@Lash,
Quote:She'd become an embarrassment. Overdue departure.
she should have been gone 20-30 years ago for not being very good at her job, she should not however be gone over outrage about a personal opinion, especially one that has good arguments to support it.
Back in the day they had this idea that states could be created by drawing convenient lines on a map. The history of Iraq, Pakistan, yugoslavia, and Israel all argue that this is a failed idea. I am not an expert in this area but is it clear to me that if the creation of Israel was a bad idea then then a possible solution is to do away with what we created. The Jews would have never been in Palestine now if not for the largess of the world community, they have made a hash of it, so the world community should work towards solving the problem.
Helen was urged out to make that front row seat available to Jeff Gannon. Fair is fair.
@JTT,
Quote:Hardly a sound plan upon which a nation should be founded, especially when one considers that you steal others lands to do so
You mean the way land was stolen from the native Indian tribes in order to build the United States?
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EDITORIAL: Hag gagged
Helen Thomas' half-century career ends in scandal
By THE WASHINGTON TIMES
6:32 p.m., Monday, June 7, 2010
Play the end of the movie "Schindler's List" backward - the compelling scene in which refugees emerge from the hell of the Holocaust to freedom in Israel - and you will get a glimpse into the tortured mind of Helen Thomas.
Yesterday, Ms. Thomas, a veteran White House correspondent for Hearst Newspapers, announced her immediate retirement in the wake of a scandal generated by comments she made that presidential press secretary Robert Gibbs deemed "offensive and reprehensible." Last week, Ms. Thomas helped kick off Jewish Heritage Month by advising Israelis to "get the hell out of Palestine," declaring that the Palestinians "are occupied. And it's their land." She suggested the Jews in Israel should "go home" to Poland and Germany. This is an extremist view more commonly associated with representatives of Hamas, Iran and al Qaeda.
Ms. Thomas' insinuation that all Israelis are European colonists squatting on land that rightly belongs to others betrays an ignorance of history and demography. Jews born in Europe and the United States - those Ms. Thomas says need to "go home" - make up just 22 percent of the country's Jewish population. More than two-thirds of Israeli Jews are native-born; some are the sons and daughters of recent immigrants, and others have family histories stretching back hundreds, even thousands, of years.
Ms. Thomas may be surprised to learn that Jewish Israelis either born in or having family roots in Arab lands make up 40 percent of the population. In most cases, their property was confiscated, and they were driven out, leaving them with no home to which to return. The same is true of the Holocaust survivors and displaced persons from Europe who were stateless souls held in internment camps by the Allies before being allowed to find refuge in what became Israel. The only real home they have is the country they built and defended through four wars.
Ms. Thomas thinks the "occupied Palestinian lands" encompass all of present-day Israel, which implies that the Jewish state has no right to exist. A useful analogy can be made to the United States, which was carved out of lands previously claimed by Indian tribes. Israel has been independent for 62 years, the equivalent of 1838 in this country, when Martin van Buren was president. By then, the United States was a recognized sovereign state, like Israel, and the people born here were Americans, just as people born in Israel today are Israelis. American culture was a distinct and unique addition to the world, a product of the melting pot of many peoples. Israeli culture has evolved in the same way. American settlers found a wilderness and built a thriving, technologically advanced society. Israeli settlers have done the same. As a daughter of Lebanese immigrants, Ms. Thomas has expressed views that are flatly hypocritical, living as she does in what some believe are "occupied Indian territories." By her own flawed logic, she could more honestly show her solidarity with oppressed peoples by going "back home" to Lebanon.
Ms. Thomas expressed mild regret for her remarks, saying they do not reflect her "heartfelt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance." She should have heeded her own counsel. Ms. Thomas' comments embodied contempt and intolerance. They were a stark message of hatred from the dean of the White House Press corps, the kind of toxic speech that disqualifies someone from a position of public trust. She now enters her long-overdue retirement, tainting a half-century of White House reporting with the memory of a vile 30-second rant.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/7/hag-gagged/