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Saint Ronnie?

 
 
Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 04:43 pm
The canonization of Reagan continues? Is this an example of ominous exercise of political power?
Reagan movie pulled due to pressure from conservatives
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Network Pulling Reagan Movie
CBS Endures Criticism About Portrayal Of President

POSTED: 12:50 p.m. EST November 4, 2003
UPDATED: 4:02 p.m. EST November 4, 2003
CBS will not broadcast a controversial movie about former President Ronald Reagan, according to a statement issued Tuesday by the network.

The move comes after a Republican's criticism that the film portrayed Reagan and his wife, Nancy, in an unflattering light, according to a report Monday in the trade paper Variety.

The two-part television movie was to have aired Nov. 16 and 18.

"This decision is based solely on our reaction to seeing the final film, not the controversy that erupted around a draft of the script," CBS said in the statement. "Although the mini-series features impressive production values and acting performances, and although the producers have sources to verify each scene in the script, we believe it does not present a balanced portrayal of the Reagans for CBS and its audience. Subsequent edits that we considered did not address those concerns."

Instead, the network sold the rights to the movie to Showtime.

"A free broadcast network, available to all over the public airwaves, has different standards than media the public must pay to view," read the CBS statement. "We do, however, recognize and respect the filmmakers' right to have their voice heard and their film seen. As such, we have reached an agreement to license the exhibition rights for the film to Showtime, a subscriber-based, pay-cable network. We believe this is a solution that benefits everyone involved."

Additionally, CBS promised to address any similar programming concerns that come its way.

"This was not an easy decision to make," read the statement. "CBS does tackle controversial subjects and provide tough assessments of prominent historical figures and events, as we did with films such as 'Jesus,' '9/11' and 'Hitler.' We will continue to do so in the future."

Also raising Republicans' ire over the telefilm, was that self-described liberals James Brolin and Judy Davis are portraying Ronald and Nancy Reagan. Brolin is also the husband of Democratic activist Barbra Streisand, whose Web site denies that she had any influence on the project.

Streisand's representative on the site said the entertainer was on the set of the television movie for a total of only 4 hours of one day, countering a report from Internet reporter Matt Drudge's report that she was there for more.

The representative also noted on Streisand's site that she never read the script, has never seen the movie, nor had Brolin had any involvement in the way Reagan was depicted.

"What is going on instead is that the Republicans, who deify President Reagan, cannot stand that some of the more unpleasant truths about his character and presidency might be depicted in the movie, along with his positive actions," the statement on the site read.

According to the report in Variety Monday, Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie asked CBS to let a team of scholars look at a film prior to its airing to gauge its historical accuracy.

The telefilm's Robert Allan Ackerman, has quit the production over the flap, according to Variety. Depending on the outcome of the edits, he may also have the Director's Guild of America remove his name from the credits, the paper said.

Showtime also issued a statement Tuesday, acknowledging the controversy surrounding "The Reagans."

"As a result, the network is planning to provide an on-air forum in conjunction with the airing of the film that will provide a dialogue for those who agree and disagree with its content," said the network in a statement. "Showtime will collaborate with the filmmaker to create a final film that will be the kind of quality programming
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 05:16 pm
HobitBob
HobitBob, CBS isn't looking too good in this dust up either. I'm outraged that CBS is caving in to the Reaganites.

I don't care about the content of the programs. I can think of a number of public figures who were portrayed unflateringly, including lies, etc. The hypocratic people who are complaining now were silent when the subject was not one of their own.

The real issue is a network caving in to political pressure, a very dangerous thing for media freedom.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14426

BBB
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2003 10:11 pm
Slowly but surely the world wakes up to network idiocy. I'm delighted. Turn 'em off! Write their advertisers!

Slowly but surely they will die out.

What we need to start thinking about is what to replace them with, okay?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 08:17 am
It's time that you face the fact that Ronald Reagan will go down in history as one of the finest presidents in the history of the US. His name will be mentioned with the other great presidents like Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Ike, and Bush...Ah just kidding about Bush. I just said that for a laugh.

BUT, like it or not, Reagan had many great and historically important events happen on his watch.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 08:20 am
Oof - would have to disagree with that, McG.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 08:29 am
A fair and balanced look at Ronald Reagan
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 11:56 am
the republicans aren't done with this yet

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/november/1106_reagan_movie.shtml
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 12:12 pm
McGentrix wrote:
BUT, like it or not, Reagan had many great and historically important events happen on his watch.



Way!


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It's time that you face the fact that Ronald Reagan will go down in history as one of the finest presidents in the history of the US. His name will be mentioned with the other great presidents like Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Ike, and Bush...Ah just kidding about Bush. I just said that for a laugh.



No way!
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 12:45 pm
CBS was no doubt facing loss of revenue from it's major advertisers and that in my opinion is why the program was discontinued. Financial health is much more important than truth.
Regarding Ronnie's place in history IMO it belongs in the dust pan. He is proof positive that this nation can function without a president. And oddly enough Bush is attempting to emulate him.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:21 pm
The problem is that the CBS portrayal had little truth in it. Other than the fact there WAS a president Reagan, it was a fictional interpretation of the writers beliefs with little basis in fact.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:26 pm
If Reagan isn't a saint, there are certainly efforts afoot to canonize him:

"The successful effort to intimidate CBS is about politics; nothing more, nothing less. Matt Bivens reports on The Nation Web site about the efforts of Republican activist, Grover Norquist and the Reagan Legacy Project, which is well along toward its stated goal of having at least one public building or street or structure named after Reagan in each of America's 3,067 counties. That's on top of the push to have Reagan's face put on the ten dollar bill (instead of Alexander Hamilton), and the drives to put a Reagan monument on the Washington Mall (an honor so far reserved only for Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt) and to carve Reagan's head onto Mount Rushmore. And of course there's already a Ronald Reagan National Airport in Washington and the twin-nuclear-reactor powered USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, which was christened this summer ... oh, there's also the commemorative Reagan stamp issued by, of all places, the island of Grenada (which also has the Ronald Reagan Scholarship Fund to send students to the United States for study) ... and the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site on Kwajalein Atoll."

The rest of the article can be found here
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:28 pm
McGentrix wrote:
The problem is that the CBS portrayal had little truth in it. Other than the fact there WAS a president Reagan, it was a fictional interpretation of the writers beliefs with little basis in fact.

How do you know? Did you see the miniseries? Did you read the script?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:30 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
The problem is that the CBS portrayal had little truth in it. Other than the fact there WAS a president Reagan, it was a fictional interpretation of the writers beliefs with little basis in fact.

How do you know? Did you see the miniseries? Did you read the script?


Have you?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:31 pm
Rather an argument of the "nya-nya" variety, isn't it?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:35 pm
Silly questions require silly answers.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:38 pm
There should be a Ronald Reagan second rate actor award.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:39 pm
McGentrix wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
The problem is that the CBS portrayal had little truth in it. Other than the fact there WAS a president Reagan, it was a fictional interpretation of the writers beliefs with little basis in fact.

How do you know? Did you see the miniseries? Did you read the script?


Have you?

Certainly not. I don't imagine that anyone has, except for people involved in the project. At most, critics have been able to view a seven-minute promotional tape sent out by CBS.

The difference, McGentrix, is that I make no claims about the accuracy or inaccuracy of the miniseries. You, on the other hand, say that it "had little truth in it" and that it was "a fictional interpretation." I don't have to view the miniseries or read the script to say that I know nothing about its accuracy. You, on the other hand, do have to have some evidence for your assertions.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 01:40 pm
Whenever i saw Ronnie on the teevee during the campaign, i always thought of an episode of Death Valley Days, in which Ronnie comes across a prospector who has been shot . . .

What happened to ya, old-timer, were ya gut-shot?

No, i was gored by a butterfly . . .


Kinda summed it all up for me, Ray-gun had somewhat of a grasp of the obvious, but little depth or compassion.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 02:01 pm
He inevitably embarrassed me -- I found it hard to listen to him or watch him. Or separate him from the cardboard cutouts that people used to get photographed next to. He was a two-dimensional man, without wisdom, without empathy.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2003 02:05 pm
The perfect Conservative! Wink
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