“I am unalterably opposed to discrimination of any sort”, do you agree or disagree?

When citizens vote Republican, it is a pro-libertarian effort.

Violation of the Constitution, robbing people of their personal freedom is immoral in the extreme.

and it does not promote the best society either. The best societies are made up of fully formed and smart people who can sift through ideas and choose the best ones. When we set up the police/nanny state we produce stupid people who can not be anything but pawns. We just had the Iraq experience, were we have seen the result of 40+ years of dictator control, remove the dictator and nobody has any clue what to do, how to behave. And yet we still believe that the spreading state control over our lives is a good thing because it "keeps us save"....

WAKE THE **** UP PEOPLE!!

When citizens vote Republican, it is a pro-libertarian effort.

No, it isn't, because the vast majority of Republicans are not, in fact, Libertarians.

Cycloptichorn

Hawkeye, u r weirding me out; socialists r not supposed to say things that r TRUE!

That's why I don't believe Rand Paul is bigoted. Mr/Ms Brown here on the other hand definitely is. But that's just my opinion.

How do you explain the fact, then, that most elected Republicans do not forward or support legislation which is Libertarian in nature?

Your blaming of the 'Democrats' for 'usurping' power is laughably ignorant. It betrays a complete misunderstanding of the political history of the last century.

Cycloptichorn

There r too many hypocritical RINOs Republicans in name only in office.

Hawkeye, u r weirding me out; socialists r not supposed to say things that r TRUE!

socialists normally care only about getting people to work together for the common good, and they don't care about what gets the society to that point. I on the other hand demand that every person who sits at the socialism table comes of their own free will, that they have CHOOSEN the socialism path, that it was not imposed upon them. I think that socialism is the common sense rational reasonable way to go, and I have every bit of faith that my side can win the argument with-in the arena of ideas.

The effort of the feminist's et al to remake this society into their fantasy utopia using the power of the state to steam-roll over the individual destroys the very same individual free will that I require to build my socialist state.

It betrays a complete misunderstanding of the political history of the last century.

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There r too many hypocritical RINOs Republicans in name only in office.

once again, you have it completely backward. They are not 'Republicans in name only;' they are the vast majority of your caucus. The vast majority of elected Republicans are in no way Libertarians. They don't support Libertarian legislation and they have supported a lot of legislation which is not Libertarian in the slightest.

It is you, David, who are out of the mainstream with your party. The quicker you realize this, instead of just blaming everything on the Dems, the faster you will understand what actually goes on in politics.

Cycloptichorn

If people choose, on a purely voluntary basis, with NO coercion, to pool their property
and to own it communally, I have no objection to that.

but is inconsistent with known fact and of no value.

but is inconsistent with known fact and of no value.

Actually, it is quite consistent with facts; just not with your beliefs.

Go ahead and point out the major pieces of Libertarian legislation which have been forwarded by the Republican party over the last 20 years or so. And are you prepared to explain why the Republican party, over and over again, voted for things which are most decidedly NOT Libertarian in nature?

Cycloptichorn

OK: let us begin with pro-freedom foreign policy.
During the 3rd World War the GOP was much more aggressive in funding anti-communist defenses,
whereas the Demos only grudgingly went along, with too many complaints.

OK: let us begin with pro-freedom foreign policy.
During the 3rd World War the GOP was much more aggressive in funding anti-communist defenses,
whereas the Demos only grudgingly went along, with too many complaints.
In fact, Ronald Reagan ran the communist economy into the ground
with our Star Wars build up and other technological military improvements.
The KGB coud not steal American technology fast enuf to keep up.
We have Reagan to thank for the death of communism.

Qua domestic policy,
the first statutes that spring to mind are freedom of self defense statutes
including, but not limited to, the statute protecting the right of citizens
to take their guns thru anti-freedom States when travelling.
To that we add immunity of the gun manufacturers from nuisance litigation
whose purpose it was to ruin them financially.
Accordingly, citizens now remain secure in their liberty of access to the means of free self defense.

The GOP has also been more aggressive in lowering taxes,
thereby giving citizens the freedom to enjoy their own $$.
Demos hate and resist that, craving to rob citizens of their property to use it collectively.

The GOP has also been more aggressive in lowering taxes, thereby giving citizens the freedom to enjoy their own $$. Demos hate and resist that, craving to rob citizens of their property to use it collectively.

The GOP has also been more aggressive in lowering taxes, thereby giving citizens the freedom to enjoy their own $$. Demos hate and resist that, craving to rob citizens of their property to use it collectively.

Republicans have also been quite aggressive about borrowing money to pay for their pet projects.
Give me tax-and-spend ahead of borrow-and-spend any day of the week.
<shrug>

Republicans have also been quite aggressive about borrowing money to pay for their pet projects. Give me tax-and-spend ahead of borrow-and-spend any day of the week.

Tax breaks: The bill would extend a series of lapsed tax breaks for businesses and individuals. Such "tax extenders" include the research and development credit for businesses and the choice for individuals to deduct either their state and local income tax or their state and local sales tax. Extending the tax breaks through Dec. 31, 2010, would reduce federal revenue by $32 billion over 10 years.

In recent years it has been typical to pass such extenders annually so constituents don't perceive lawmakers as increasing their taxes, said Clint Stretch, managing principal of tax policy at Deloitte Tax LLC.

But extending tax breaks one year at a time masks the real cost of what is in essence a long-term or permanent extension, since the price tag is only recorded in 12-month increments.