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Are We To Become A Christian Fundamentalist Nation?

 
 
williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sun 9 Nov, 2003 07:50 pm
blatham wrote:
George is . . . a Republican.


blatham<

Thanks for this interesting bit of information about poor ol' George. I knew there was something about him that was causing my sinuses to clog up.


george<

No need for us to debate. If you are as happy about being a Republican as I am about being a Democrat, then we might as well be friends.

I am a life-long "yellow dog Democrat," which means that I would vote Democrat even if the candidate is a yellow dog.

So, I can't change you, george. The only person I can change is me and after more than a half-century of life, I become more devoted to the Democrat Party with each passing year.

So, let the debate continue. I'll be viewing from the sidelines (and perhaps adding a comment or two along the way). Have fun!
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 07:16 am
I'm in a hurry, but here....this fits here. Today's Family Research Council Washington Update Report:

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Veteran's Day


All across the country today, Americans are commemorating the 50th official observance of Veteran's Day. Each year since 1918, Americans have marked the anniversary of the end of World War I - November 11th - as the day many hoped would be the end of all wars.

Unfortunately WWI was not the war to end all wars and since that time hundreds of thousands of men and women have joined the ranks of those who have worn the uniforms of the United States military in defense of freedom and liberty. They do this not only for those of us here in America, but for nations and people across the globe.

In peacetime and in war, members of our nation's military have missed birthdays, Christmas's and many other special occasions with their families in order to stand their post and defend our families. For that, today we are profoundly thankful to the many servicemen and women - from those in the Greatest Generation to those serving today in Iraq, Afghanistan and posts here at home - who have dedicated their lives and the lives of their families to the cause of defending and promoting the American ideal throughout the world.

As a veteran of the Marine Corps - which celebrated its 228th Anniversary yesterday - I am thankful that our nation has been blessed with military might. The Lord has blessed us with an effective, dedicated fighting force that has guarded the world from some of history's most vial enemies. It is that divine blessing that must cause all of us to thank not only the veterans, but also the Lord who has so mercifully kept His hand of protection on our nation for so long. I would close with Jesus' words in the Gospel of John: "Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Today, we at Family Research Council say to our veterans and to those serving our nation today - Thank you! Thank you for a job well done.



P. S. George,

I saw your post on Sunday and will answer soon.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 07:20 am
I'm particularly taken with those "vial" enemies, Lola!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 07:30 am
I gotta agree with the direction of George's thoughts.

The "religious right" is so vocal right now because we are hearing its death throes -- and death throes can be deafening.

But no matter how strong they come off -- they signal death -- not renewed life.

I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone that I hope agnosticism fills the vacuum -- not atheism. And I also hope that when the changes come, we who oppose the kinds of impositions the religious right are trying to foist on us -- do not do the same thing in reverse.

Live and let live!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 07:49 am
Yes, I've said often that I believe what we're hearing are the death throes of fundamentalism, perhaps even Christianity.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 09:44 am
Tartarin wrote:
Yes, I've said often that I believe what we're hearing are the death throes of fundamentalism, perhaps even Christianity.



I think there are more people like us, Tartarin, than easily meets the eye.





I truly do not wish any ill on fundamentalists or Christians or any of the various religious.

I just see religion as a net negative for humanity and society -- and anything that weakens it -- gladdens me.

(I guess this is analogous to the Christian philosophy of hate the sin but love the sinner. I tolerate, respect, and even love the religious -- but I hate religion.)
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 10:01 pm
I think it's a dream that religion will ever go away. It serves too many purposes. And there will always be the paranoid, neurotic and otherwise frightened who will hold themselves together with destructive thinking and behavior, including fanatical anything, which does not exclude fanatical religion. And of course there are those forms of religion which serve an entirely positive purpose. And some prefer to guess in the direction of a creator, and some can actully see this as logical. I'm not one of those who sees any logic in it, but I haven't always been right.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 10:39 pm
(Wouldn't you be out of work if these folks weren't around?)
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perception
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 10:43 pm
Lola

I'm a bit surprised that one with a magnificent intellect such as yours would be so paranoid about religion------I hate to keep harping on human nature but for a vast portion of the worlds societies,religion, or paganism or socialism Cool fills a psychological void. Surely you would agree with that and that it won't be until everyone on earth has a liberal arts education taught by Chomsky, Laughing that religion will be completely eradicated.

Seriously, the higher level of education that one has, the more likely it is that one will tend to reject creationism and thus categorize religion in the same manner as Marx---as the "opiate of the people".

If and when that happens what will fill that psychological void and will all war end?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 10:59 pm
I may be wrong here but I tend to believe that opium is the opiate of the masses. religion is mostly just a habit of people like smoking or chewing gum. It gives them something to do with their idle minds. Its also a good line of business to go into.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 11:14 pm
No, opium is the religion of the masses, just as latin is their language. Didn't you learn anything in reform school, dyslexia, or were the lines too thick to read between?
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2003 11:43 pm
Christianity will continue to be practiced in spite of the fact that the GOP is currently giving it a bad reputation.

The Republicans have opened their umbrellas to allow Christian religious fanatics to stand under them with the highest of credentials. Non-issues such as prayer in public schools, the "under God" phrase in the Pledge of Allegiance, abortion, sexual orientation et al are the fodder for all the "Bushies," with the dangerous Attorney General John Ashcroft leading the pack in its search of "hell fire" and "damnation." Evil or Very Mad
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2003 08:01 am
"I may be wrong here but I tend to believe that opium is the opiate of the masses. religion is mostly just a habit of people like smoking or chewing gum."

I read that, Dys, and realized that religion is a habit, perhaps as pernicious as gambling can be for many.
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