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Universal health care

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 6 Apr, 2010 09:27 am
@MASSAGAT,
MASSAGAT, you'll just have to gird up your loins and prepare for "Armageddon". We have new health care law, and you will have to learn to live with it. Forget the fantasies about how the Republicans would have done it better. The fact is, they didn't do it, although they've had ample opportunity to pass health care reform in the past several decades. So now the Democrats have done it, and it is law. I wouldn't count on it being overturned in any legal contests anytime soon. Better learn to live with it--universal health care is on it's way.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Apr, 2010 10:14 am
@MASSAGAT,
MASSAGAT wrote:
I am sure that you can find DOCUMENTATION AND EVIDENCE on the Internet which shows how horrible Health Care is in England and Canada.


What I always find interesting is that anyone from the right points at England's and Canada's healthcare.

Why do you leave out e.g. the Scottish NHS, MASSA?

Or why the healthcare in any other country .... especially in those which a longer or even a shorter tradition?

Take Switzerland for instance.
Certainly, a strong left wing country, communists where you look, everything is equal and socialised.
Like healthcare.
Which made the high earning people to flee the country. Not only they fled, the middle class tried to do so as well.

Just to keep their communistic socialised healthcare running, the left Swiss government (no democracy there since centuries, as you certainly know) created a militia army .... and now everyone who doesn't want to pay in the national health insurance and/or tries to flee the country is shot.
MASSAGAT
 
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Reply Wed 7 Apr, 2010 03:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Well, you may not quite understand this, Mr. Hinttler, but England and Canada are English speaking countries. That does make a great difference. However, if you have statistics which show that Scotland has a marvelous Health Care System, pass them along. All of us are eager to learn. Or, even better, tell us about the best health system in the world--Germany's. The Germans have always exelled in most endeavors--have they not?

Teach us, Mr. Hinteler!

But, you are joking about Switzerland, right? They present the world with a country that is envied throughout the world by most.

But not by Harry Lime in "The Third Man" who pointed out that although Switzerland had had peace and prosperity for years, they have been able to produce no more than the Cuckoo Clock!
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Apr, 2010 03:30 am
@MASSAGAT,
MASSAGAT wrote:

Well, you may not quite understand this, Mr. Hinttler, but England and Canada are English speaking countries. That does make a great difference.


I understand: English speaking health care and health insurance is different to that in mot English-speaking countries.

Health certainly is language dependent.

MASSAGAT wrote:

Well, you may not quite understand this, Mr. Hinttler, but England and Canada are English speaking countries. That does make a great difference. However, if you have statistics which show that Scotland has a marvelous Health Care System, pass them along.


Well, Scotland is an English speaking country, too.
I've nothing said about the status of the Scottish NHS - but I do think, when you refer to the English, you could do so to the Scotish as well.



MASSAGAT wrote:
Or, even better, tell us about the best health system in the world--Germany's. The Germans have always exelled in most endeavors--have they not?

Teach us, Mr. Hinteler!


I've done so a couple of times on this thread - but I've never thought that Germany has the best health system.
The oldest, yes (since 1883 by law, earlier in guilds etc).

I don't know if this "excelled in most endeavors" - but nearly all other countries with a (mandatory) health care insurence/system have copied ours.


MASSAGAT wrote:

But, you are joking about Switzerland, right? They present the world with a country that is envied throughout the world by most.

But not by Harry Lime in "The Third Man" who pointed out that although Switzerland had had peace and prosperity for years, they have been able to produce no more than the Cuckoo Clock!


Well, it seems that Graham Greene (who wrote the script) had a better knowledge of Switzerland than Welles (who added that quote).
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