THe PC Police Again Shut Down Truth Seaking

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Gay soldiers don't out themselves to get out of the army. The usual discharge is because they are outed by others.

Fully realizing that you dont care about facts, I present some anyways so that others might be fully informed that you are talking out of your ass

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An estimated 13,000 people have been discharged under the law. Although most of the dismissals have been the result of gay service members outing themselves, advocates for repeal of the law say it has been used to drum out capable soldiers who never made their sexuality an issue.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/04/ap_mchugh_gay_discharges_040110/

n 1998, The Navy alleged that he declared his homosexuality on his publicly-available America Online email account[2] with screen name "boysrch".[3] The Navy contacted AOL, pretending to be a friend of McVeigh's, and requested the name behind the screen name "boysrch."[1] AOL confirmed that his profile indicated his marital status was stated as "gay".[2]
McVeigh challenged the U.S. Navy's decision to discharge him on the grounds that his AOL profile did not amount to a declaration of homosexuality, and furthermore that the Navy acted improperly by investigating the AOL account without a court order or a warrant.[2] The federal court held that the government violated the Electronic Communications Privacy Act and issued a preliminary injunction preventing the government from discharging McVeigh.[3] The court also determined that the Navy violated its own "Don't Tell, Don't Pursue" policy.[citation needed]
Ultimately, the case was settled in June 1998. The Navy did not admit any wrongdoing. McVeigh was able to retire at the rank of Master Chief Petty Officer with full benefits and the Navy paid for all of his legal fees.[3] In a separate settlement, AOL agreed to pay damages to McVeigh for having improperly disclosed his identity.[4]
McVeigh said he planned to retire to civilian life before Labor Day 1998.

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Sorry the Dutch are not the only people with open gays serving in their military and I had not hear of any great failures for any reason by the UK forces for example.

LISTEN UP OLD MAN, THIS THREAD WAS NEVER ABOUT GAYS IN THE MILITARY! It was about the unwillingness to face truth, as evidenced by the Dutch unwillingness to face truth, even going so far as to pressure Americans for talking about what the Dutch did wrong.

So do you have any ability to tell me how your article determines someone outing themselves?

He spoke in a capacity which represented the USA,

I just want to see how she determined her numbers

Certain categories of confidential information, used in discharge cases under "don't ask don't tell," will now be off limits. Service member conversations with lawyers, clergy, therapists and other medical professionals will remain private

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He spoke in a capacity which represented the USA,

Bullshit, he spoke in the capacity of a military officer. It was his professional opinion, he neither spoke for the US nor was it his personal opinion.

Less see go to jail for a few years and very likely enjoy being rape day in and day out or have chemicals injected into your body for the rest of your life that no only would kill your sex drive but have you growing breasts along with other wonderful side effect.

Yes I am smiling thinking of you being given those two choices. It would be far fairer to do that to a bigot like you

a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own

Are you saying his personal and professional opinion are not one and the same? Are you saying that him speaking as a military officer is irrelevant to the country he served?

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Are you saying his personal and professional opinion are not one and the same? Are you saying that him speaking as a military officer is irrelevant to the country he served?

Thank you for your timely illustration that you dont have the first clue what the military is all about. You know nothing about the culture, if you were more wise you would resist talking about it.

If you was just calling for an investigation of the Netherlands peace keeping forces with no special credit given to the silly and bigot comment concerning gays you did not do a great job of making that clear. The PC police comment in the title also did not help.

Our group bigot Ionus seem not to had understood your meaning either by the way. Hmm, I can only wonder if Ionus is a bigot when it come to Jews or blacks and think we should keep them out of the military also.

Are you saying his personal and professional opinion are not one and the same? Are you saying that him speaking as a military officer is irrelevant to the country he served?

Be more clear here. you're blathering.

of a senior military commander because it was politically incorrect.

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Are you saying his personal and professional opinion are not one and the same? Are you saying that him speaking as a military officer is irrelevant to the country he served?

Of course they are not the same. What do you do ? Push paper ? Your opinion as a paper pusher does not reflect your personal opinion as a bigot. His opinion as a military officer in this matter was based on another countries experience. Try reading previous posts and catch up.

Would you like me to quote German senior military men after WW1 blaming the German Jewish soldiers?

Should we all grant their opinions respect to?

A bigot is a bigot.

What you don't get here is that he was completely unqualified to make this statement in the first place. That alone warrants the second statement.

The aftermath of a war always involves blame.

So why the **** was a retired American General commenting on blame in a fight in which he was unqualified to speak on?

Prior to assuming his final duties as Supreme Allied Commander, Atlantic and Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic Command on October 31, 1994, General Sheehan served as Director for Operations, J-3, Joint Staff, Washington, D.C. General Sheehan retired from the Marine Corps on September 24, 1997.[1]