Are they all so pathetic?

After attacking the police, the members planned to retreat to several planned “rally points” and wait for the authorities to come after them. They were preparing fighting positions as well as “trip-wired and command-detonated” bombs, it said.

“It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more widespread uprising against the government,” the indictment said.

In addition, Mr. Stone had announced “a covert reconnaissance exercise” in April, during which “anyone who happened upon the exercise who did not acquiesce to Hutaree demands could be killed,” the indictment said.

The United States attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, Barbara McQuade, said the government raided the group this past weekend because that exercise would have “had the potential of placing an unsuspecting member of the public at risk.” ...

Such groups always overestimate their own influence over other groups, I think.
Such a plan is ultimately suicidal and unappealing to average Americans, I think.

edgarblythe wrote:

Such groups always overestimate their own influence over other groups, I think.
Such a plan is ultimately suicidal and unappealing to average Americans, I think.

Ed, its not very ofen that we agree, but this time: I believe u hit the target bull'seye.
Most of the time when I 'm called a gun "nut" I accept it as mindless, ad hominem mudslinging,
but such activity as this is genuine mental illness -- separation from reality -- that includes
use of weaponry. However unusual it may be, in this instance,
thay really r gun "nuts". As u have noted, Ed, their beliefs include
exaggerated notions of influence over other citizens, reminiscent
of Charlie Manson 's "helter skelter" psychosis.

Having acknowledged all of that,
let 's turn our attention a few theoretical degrees of arc, to wit:
what if W or Obama got to like the job enuf as to make a deal
with the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Armed Forces, maybe after
some convenient emergency (like the Reichstag fire) and suspended
elections indefinitely, declaring that in furtherance
of the "GENERAL WELFARE" clause of the Constitution,
it was obviously in America 's general welfare to have his sage leadership continue permanently.

WHATAYASAY ??

"OK, what the hell, we 've had elections long enuf" ??


Of course, it coud never happen here . . . .
As long as we assume that, that 'll be good enuf.

I saw that. What scary people . . . and then the question of why people distrust and fear Christians is raised. Right.

Are they all so pathetic?

I posted on my FB page that I am continually amazed at how crazy people are.

I saw that. What scary people . . . and then the question of why people distrust and fear Christians is raised. Right.

Quote:

Are they all so pathetic?

Yes. Yes they are.

human beings

I mean anti-government gun nuts (there is a difference between the nuts and pro-government gun enthusiasts).

I think it is funny that gun nuts (and I mean the first group) often say that guns are a protection against the government... yet when these heavily armed people face the government, they fold rather quickly without any casualties.

I have always thought that the violent opposition to the government rhetoric was pretty silly.

These people, who talk so tough but couldn't even stand up for a legitimate shootout when the time came, seem like fair game for mockery.

Glen Beck, with anti-government views he backs with not even very thinly veiled militant rhetoric certainly has some similarities to these people-- he isn't quite as crazy, but they are cousins.