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Is Evolution a Dangerous Idea? If so, why?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jul, 2019 10:46 pm
@edgarblythe,
From my perspective, none of us living today has to worry about that final phbttt.
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jul, 2019 03:02 pm
@farmerman,
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what is a second defined as?


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the historical definition of the unit was based on this division of the Earth's rotation cycle, the formal definition in the International System of Units (SI) is a much steadier timekeeper: it is defined by taking the fixed numerical value of the caesium frequency ∆νCs, the unperturbed ground-state hyperfine transition frequency of the caesium 133 atom, to be 9192631770 when expressed in the unit Hz, which is equal to s−1.[1][2] Because the Earth's rotation varies and is also slowing ever so slightly, a leap second is periodically added to clock time[nb 1] to keep clocks in sync with Earth's rotation.

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Were there many clocks around during the Pleistocene? the Cambrian?[

Yes, it has been scientifically verified that it is highly probable there were caesium 133 atoms (as well as other atoms) during the Pleistocene and the Cambrian. The question is was the frequency the same as it is today because the amount of disorder in matter determines the gravitational constant and gravity effects the frequency . (Which is understood by the scientific community and factors into the calibration of clocks on gps satellites.

Why do you ask?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jul, 2019 05:51 pm
@brianjakub,
put it in your own words and Ill let you know if youre close to understanding.

I used to claim deposits of pollucite in culm banks of lepidolite and spodumene.
Why do you think cesium 133 was the second obvious SI candidate defining the second?.

(The math only works when we can see that a compilation of (X)femto seconds defines the age of a specific iron nickel meteorite containing U238)
brianjakub
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jul, 2019 11:42 am
@farmerman,
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put it in your own words and Ill let you know if youre close to understanding.


The timekeeping element in every modern clock is a harmonic oscillator (a physical object that vibrates or oscillates at a particular frequency). The object can be a pendulum, a tuning fork, a quartz crystal, or the vibration of electrons in atoms as they emit microwaves. Atoms give off energy in packets that radiate at a very specific and consistent frequency. So, every atom is a clock because they are made up of particles that move in a systematic way.
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Why do you think cesium 133 was the second obvious SI candidate defining the second?.


The technical explanation to why cesium 133 is the most accurate element to build an atomic clock is hard to picture but the interaction between the electron cloud and nucleus in cessium is more consistent than any other atom. So since the mechanism of an atomic clock is contained in the electron cloud there is a small range of error even in cessium.

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(The math only works when we can see that a compilation of (X)femto seconds defines the age of a specific iron nickel meteorite containing U238)


And the point of that statement is?
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popeye1945
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 12:33 am
Sanity replacing ignorance, more frightening to some than others, if your emotionally invested in some mythology, then evolution is dangerous to that fantasy. In the states this ignorance is state sponsored, in a policy of dumbing down the public, we get, TRUMPISM!!!!!
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 08:02 am
@popeye1945,
Evolution is a fantasy until it can be definitively PROVED to be truth. It's nothing more than a HOPEFUL theory and always has been and always will be.
You know this already... so why am I even bothering to remind you of this....
popeye1945
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 08:12 am
@Jasper10,
JASPER, DUH!!
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 08:19 am
@popeye1945,
Come on.....you can't definitely prove anything so you can't make evolutionary statements as if they are truth. All you can do is HOPE that the evolutionary THEORY .... is true.

I can run through the sound LOGIC again that confirms this if you want.....you are in DENIAL...
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:39 am
@Jasper10,
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All you can do is HOPE that the evolutionary THEORY .... is true.

Why do you think THEY would be hopeful about that theory?
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:42 am
@Jasper10,
actually its you who is in denial. There exists absolutely no evidence for a non natural evolutionary theory.
All the evidence supports it and no evidence refutes it.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:43 am
@Leadfoot,
Well isn't that where their HOPE lies now?
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:45 am
@Jasper10,
IS evolution a dangeroues theory?? It is if scientific ignorance and relligious fervor runs your world view
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:46 am
@Jasper10,
Why do you think they would HOPE to end up as worm food?
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:52 am
@farmerman,
With all due respect....there is alternative evidence that refutes evolution...so much so that evolutionist have given up debating with creationist because they know that the evidence the creationist have fits better. Evolutionist lose all the debates now. People need to start reading up on it more so that they can have a more balanced view. It's just that society has been brain washed with a one sided view for so many years now.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:56 am
@farmerman,
Scientific ignorance has been running things for many years now.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:59 am
@Leadfoot,
Well everyone has a choice to HOPE (because that is all they have) in what they want.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 10:03 am
@Jasper10,
More like scientific myth. The one that says they know the truth. The ‘scientists' know it’s a myth, but it's a useful tool to keep people in line.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 10:04 am
@Jasper10,
Your theory lacks any motive.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 10:13 am
@Leadfoot,
Well...I hope in God and understand the reasons why I need to.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2021 10:58 am
@Jasper10,
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Scientific ignorance has been running things for many years now
Well, weve voted he and his clowns out of office. ANT_SCIENCE is like cutting tomatoes with a dull knife. It can be very dangerous sompared to the alternative.
If you dont accept science, thats OK because most science knows that your blief system is quite worthless.
There are many scientists who "believe in a god". They just dont accept that a god had anything to do with creation or evolution. Thats just a waste of time and requires absolutely no intellect.
 

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