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Is Evolution a Dangerous Idea? If so, why?

 
 
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 04:59 am
@Leadfoot,
http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/3-16.htm
Biblical scripture is claimed to be the word of God.

There is nothing wrong with Deuteronomy chapter 17.
When Israel came out of Egypt, they agreed to the laws God gave such as putting disrespectful people who are willing to spit in the face of God to Death.
Such people were more than aware of the law.
This is a foreshadowing of things to come. Whether it be human beings or angelic beings, so that a heavenly society can be established.

Keep in mind the Covenant God made with Israel had the purpose of making them into a holy nation, a pure nation, which is why there are commands such as not wearing clothing of two threads, or planting crops of two different types in The same field even, never mind putting fornicators and idolaters to death.
( it is important to note that such a covenant was only for Israel and not the nations around her, not for us today, so don’t go putting people to death LOL)

The covenant, if obeyed would have made Israel a shining star,( as the heavenly nation will be) an unstoppable force, which it did for a little while but then they fell away. They fell away because that is what mankind does when it comes to obeying the law without a pure heart like Christ had.

Yes, the cold harsh law The old testament has been summed up with love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind. In other words, obeying the law should be easy, should be is key. However because mankind is so sinful we cannot do the simplest of tasks.
Thoughts?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 07:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
The worship of the pantheon/astral gods and goddesses involved the ritual sacrifice of children. God does not want children being sacrificed to heavenly bodies or to stone or wooden idols which represent them.

www.saturndeathcult.com
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 08:24 am
Aside from the fact of evolution being the philosophical cornerstone of Nazism and Communism and the eugenics programs,there is another thing which makes it a dangerous idea.

Evolution promotes gullibility and lowers IQ in its believers. That is, once you begin to believe in one brain-dead ideological doctrine which is totally at odds with observable reality, believing in the next stupid thing becomes that much easier until, usually sooner rather than later, the evoloser/evolutionite is left with no logical faculty nor discernment whatever. As Grace Slick noted:

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'When logic and proportion, have fallen...."


Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 08:43 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/3-16.htm
Biblical scripture is claimed to be the word of God

It says it was given by inspiration of God, not that it is God's literal words. It is probably literally true that both of our words here are inspired by our relationship with God, but that does not make them God's words.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 08:43 am
@gungasnake,
Here, you misspelled "evolution" in the following quote let me correct it for you...
gungasnake wrote:
RELIGION promotes gullibility and lowers IQ in its believers. That is, once you begin to believe in one brain-dead ideological doctrine which is totally at odds with observable reality, believing in the next stupid thing becomes that much easier until, usually sooner rather than later, the religious person is left with no logical faculty nor discernment whatever.

There. Now it's correct. You're welcome.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 09:49 am
@rosborne979,
Sure, Religion = evolution
Yep, Same thing, you are correct on that, and I agree that each word can be interchangeable As you have done.

there many religions, including atheism/ evolutionism, but only one true teaching.
The truth definitely does not have anything to do with microorganisms being created in chemical soups, reptiles with feathers, whales with legs, and half monkey man things. This kind of thinking is destructive.
Brother, if anything just ditch such pseudo science. You have been and are being deceived!
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 09:53 am
@Leadfoot,
Ah, But would you say the big difference between our words, and what is known as ‘his word’ Is that his word can be used for reproof and correction, and is authoritative as stated in 2 Timothy 3:16?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 10:51 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Sure, Religion = evolution
Creationists can't provide any evidence for this claim in the bible. However, we know that the bible claims man is in god's image. The problem with that is we now know that man evolved from the primates. When the bible was written, they didn't have the science or wherewithal to determine how evolution worked. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution We also know that planet earth is over 4.5 billion years old, but according to the bible, this earth is only 7,000 years old. These conflicts only prove that the bible is full of errors, omissions and contradictions.
https://www.space.com/24854-how-old-is-earth.html
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 03:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I am not sure if you have read any of my previous post regarding dating techniques. Doesn’t seem so because you said you(and others) know the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
You provided a link Which covers a little bit About how some scientists reach that conclusion of Billions of years.
Let’s take first large portion of it which Partially explains how rock dating techniques work. You see, what they are not telling you (and others) is that there are major assumptions being relied on in order to yield old age rocks.
This is Pseudo science, and dishonest too.( if a scientist is even aware of their folly)
Here:
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/carbon-14/radiocarbon-dating/
This expands on rock dating.
Rocks are not clocks.
So, All we are left with is a religious belief that the earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Likewise with ‘knowing’ we evolved from monkeys. Just s religious belief, With no real scientific facts backing it up. It is actually the furthest thing from logical and furthest thing from reality.

Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 05:00 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Sry, just realized I cut n pasted the wrong link 😬
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 05:47 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
You sound like a creationist. From Quora:
First, radiocarbon dating is a specialist field, carried out in specialist laboratories, by specialist staff that impress me ashaving some of the sharpest brains in the whole discipline of archaeology.

Second, radiocarbon dating is a thriving field of research, and there is a major journal (“Radiocarbon” would you believe) devoted to its problems and their solution. There are also regular major international conferences on the same subject. This activity reflects the current value of the technique and the promise it holds for riches to come.

Third. the problems I have listed were (as usual) identified by scientists who are trying to use the technique. The detractors of science will persist in hitching their silly little wagons to any problem anyone identifies, and of course for them the problems are ends in themselves. For scientists, the problems are just the start, and the objective is improved techniques, which the anti-scientists have absolutely no interest in. Instead they cling to their false hope that science doesn’t work, ignoring the fact that science has been working a little bit better every day for a few centuries now. Unfortunately, stupidity and ignorance never go out of fashion among the stupid and ignorant.

https://www.quora.com/How-accurate-is-carbon-dating
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jun, 2018 05:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
When you bring the bible into the discussion, we can already determine that it has no place in the discussion of the age of this planet. I would refer to the findings of scientists long before the bible assumes the top reference as a reliable source of information - on any subject.
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 03:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
I ditched the pseudo science of evolution and billions of years as an atheist, When I realized how bankrupt it was. You are right about the problems dating techniques have, and evolutionism in general like believing in microorganisms being created by an ocean vent, whales with legs etc too.
Sure, the biblical record has its timeline, which the door is wide-open to, as it should be if it is the truth.

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 04:23 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
The Earth is most likely somewhere between a few hundred thousand and a few million years old, but not tens or hundreds of millions or billions.

http://bearfabrique.org/Misc/Earths_Age.pdf
rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 04:26 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

The Earth is most likely somewhere between a few hundred thousand and a few million years old, but not tens or hundreds of millions or billions
... He says against all evidence to the contrary.
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 04:37 am
@gungasnake,
One of the main points in the link you provided, which I agree with, is that dinosaurs did not live very long ago because of soft tissue be found.
Thing is, as this article explains
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/carbon-14/radiocarbon-dating/
Is that radiocarbon dating techniques have the same problem as any other dating technique, which is Assumptions.
Halfway through the article I just posted lists three primary assumptions that are relied upon in order to date something even as old as 60,000 years. But because we do not know, for example, that the carbon in the atmosphere in the past was the same as today, the door is wide open to and even younger date. So, the door is wide open for dinosaur extinction 4000 years ago, after the global flood, During the Ice Age.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 04:50 am
@gungasnake,
You see, The big Error people dating Things make is that they assume the present conditions have always been the same, whether it be radiocarbon dating or as another example, observing the world and seeing flesh eating animals ( and falsely assuming this has always been Constant)whereas the truth is that in the past These same animals were vegetarian.

And Because people (some scientists)make these sort of assumptions, they come to a conclusion drastically different than the truth.
Like these two examples of the age of the earth and flesh eating.
Never assume.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 06:41 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
I'm aware of that. We know that nothing over 60K years will radiocarbon date at all and so the fact that they do get rc dates for dinosaur remains indicates that those remains are no older than that.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 06:42 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
The real ice ages would have been prior to the "golden age" and the flood.

www.saturndeathcult.com
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2018 10:01 am
@gungasnake,
from what I’m gathering, you embrace more than one ice age?

http://iceagecivilizations.com/index.html

http://iceagecivilizations.com/articles/article01.htm
I do own this book at home. Here is a short article And giving some insight to the Ice Age which ended 1500 BC or so.
 

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