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Is Evolution a Dangerous Idea? If so, why?

 
 
Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 04:53 pm
@Ionus,
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I didnt take it to strange new places like you.

Of course not...you are self educated...right? That's why we all have to rely on your self-acquired knowledge...

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You dont understand much do you...

Not when ideas are poorly and incoherently conveyed...

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what you fail to realise with your smart arse attitude is that you are losing the respect of anyone trying to follow this.

And you know this how?

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Can you fit in another "So what ?"

If you wrote coherent sentences that conveyed clear ideas, I wouldn't have to ask you to explain them.

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So what happened to your belief :

I don't do "beliefs"...

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What was the source ?

You mean the Lion King? It's a Disney animated movie...it's fictional...talking animals don't exist, Ionus...but then again: Numbers 22:22-31

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Another fool like you who thinks he can convert religious people by bullying them.

Are you actually admitting that you're religious?

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your arrogance and stupidity singularly dont make you great, but in combination they make you extraordinary.

This is soooo deep...where did you copy this quote from? Don't forget to give that person credit...
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Just as an aside, do you have mental health problems ?

No...you know why? 'cause I am running the asylum...and you're my dearest patient.
Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 04:56 pm
@Ionus,
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No, it is their ability to be just as arrogant and destructive as the fundamentalists they wail against.

Don't confuse honesty with arrogance, Ionus.

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They like knee jerk emotional attacks, they just done like anyone else's.

Waitaminute...you're the one attacking here...I'm trying to be civil with you...but you don't understand how to be civil...

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No I am not. You ability to be wrong makes you very consistent.

Well, if you are not a fundamentalist Christian, then you, for sure, have an identity crisis...there.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:04 pm
@Francis,
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Suffice it to say that they do not proceed from any religion. And they are too private to share..


Which means to me that you're either a uxorian or underestimate the intelligence of the ladies.

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Well, one of them is that I'm currently in sunny California and have a work to do. Another is that I've better things on which to employ my time.


A statement undermined by your posting.

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And finally, sometimes, the arguments are so inane that I just give up.


A temptation but when succumbed to hands victory to the other side.

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As for being stumped, I expected you would know better, I'm amazed that you could even ask...


That's meaningless to me.

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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:11 pm
@Ionus,
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Thats the spirit.

http://liviu2102.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/the-spirit_super.jpg
Are we talking about movies now?
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remember what I told you about stupid people and moving images.

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So what ?

That a person with IQ lower than 90 are able to understand simple explanations by watching moving images...that is "what"...

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For God's sake dont try and cross the street alone.

Do you want to run me over with your tricycle?

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Where do you think the name came from ?

I've already gave you a synopsis of the "Dark Ages"...read it.

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As you so eloquently put it ...HUH ???

Drunk
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But religious wars kill even more...no?

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No.

Nice argument...thanks for proving me wrong!...WOW!!

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Who gives a **** about Roman Art being hindered.

I give a ****...


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Do you think those peoples that invaded were inferior ?


Inferior in what sense?
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Whp says they were not educated ?

Possibly... self- educated like you
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many had been Roman commanders.

You mean like the Visigoth Alaric?

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Your lack of knowledge is scary when compared to what you think you know.

My lack of knowledge ? But I know that I know that you're a pussycat with a religious agenda.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:16 pm
@edgarblythe,
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Science classes only teach about the mechanics of evolution.


Oh yeah. I can imagine fm's digs and sarcastic comments if you can't.

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I think people are tougher than you give them credit for.


They are not so tough.

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I believe a person is for the most part born atheist or deist.


That's seriously unscientific.

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Madeline O'Hare did all she could to teach her son to be an atheist. But, as soon as he could, despite all the indoctrination and evolution, he rejected it and showed himself to be very religious.


Individual cases prove nothing general.

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I don't believe that by lying to people you are sparing them a thing.


I do. "The truth is obscure, too profound and too pure, to live it you have to explode". I've read Naked Lunch.

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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:18 pm
@Ionus,
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Seriously, all jokes aside, what are you trying to portray with that avatar ?

I like the reaction my avatar picture causes to religious bigots who think they're not homosexuals when they can't take their eyes off it...that's why I'm keeping it...seriously!


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Oh well done...a round of applause for our first timer and his confession.


It's not a confession...it's an assertion...know the difference....
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Admitting the problem is the first stage of working through to a cure.

What problem? Not being a Greek nor a philosopher is a problem? WOW...you are the most coherent "in-the-closet-religious" mite I've ever met.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:20 pm
I also read Naked Lunch. Not relatable.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:22 pm
Spendi wrote:
Which means to me that you're either a uxorian or underestimate the intelligence of the ladies.
That made me laugh, Spendi!

Nothing in between?
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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:25 pm
@Ionus,
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Perhaps you should read the original context.

The context about what a straw man is? It's just a weak argument that is easily refuted...that's why I call all your arguments "straw men"...

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Just so people dont think you are stupid beyond belief
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No person thinks I'm stupid...

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I dont agree with just saying a catch phrase in the hope of distracting attention from your inability to reply.

Let's not distract then and keep this thread focused...be the first...
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I call shenanigans ! Shenanigans !

And I call a Psychiatrist ...

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But I did..and you can not understand the simplest concepts..

I don't understand the concept because you can't write coherently...stop and think before you write something...it works almost every time.
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is your mirror distracting you or cant you see the monitor from down there ?


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vl8oWf5-NwE/SuBJRoqa1lI/AAAAAAAAAD4/JFKRkyKeWJE/s400/CatAndMirror-799191.jpg
You're a pussycat...
Francis
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:33 pm
Spendi wrote:
Francis wrote:
And finally, sometimes, the arguments are so inane that I just give up.


A temptation but when succumbed to hands victory to the other side.
Doesn't matter, Spendi, I succumb quite readily and hand victory to the other side.

I learned a few things with Pyrrhus..
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:43 pm
@Francis,
In which case why not private unbelief and going through the etiquette?
Francis
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 05:51 pm
@spendius,
For people to know that there are other options.

If nothing, for the sake of schadenfreunde...
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 06:52 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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I didn't read something you posted(which you claimed I didn't) that is well known by A2Kers with a rational brain to be garbage, doesn't make me a bigot...
Yes it does.
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I give you the definition of "Prejudice"..and tell me if it applies to me:
Yes it does.
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it will take me more than a month (or a month) to list all my qualifications to you, Ionus...I'm not a bigot...I don't do hate
Sure. Your self love and hate of others is driving you now.
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Can you name me a theory that is not factual?
Gomer can...he names String Theory.
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You said : a scientific theory is an explanation composed of facts...would you also say that music theory, the theory of gravity , the theory of germs, the theory of nuclear fusion, and other scientific theories are not factual?

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I said : A Theory by definition can be proven wrong when more facts are known.

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You said : So what? If the theory can be proven wrong, it was a failed theory to begin with...

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I said : You try to be dismissive in the hope someone who believes you will know what you are talking about. Forlorne hope. Can you tell which theories are failed theories before more facts are known ?

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You said : They are failed theories (or scientific explanations)when they are proven wrong by peer review scientists
So they didnt have facts in them.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:03 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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Seek help.
Are you implying that I'm going to need help with trying to make you see reason?
Is that a witty retort for your level of intelligence because it is rather pathetic, just like you.
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I'm just telling you that it isn't relevant because this doesn't contribute anything to the core argument.
You are telling me...another example of your ego.
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that those changes were not derived from the Bible , but from scientific observations in nature...the Bible didn't contribute anything.
Make up your mind. First you say the Bible can be twisted to say the earth is flat and now you say it didnt contribute. Focus, man/girl !
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because the Bible teaches that the Earth is flat...
This was discussed and you were in error.
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I thought the world was flat?
No, it is definitely a globe..unless you belive the moon landings were faked too.
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examining your argumentative skills and your sources (which are none)
Your sources are pretty pictures that you have to post because they are so pretty.
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Bring on the insults, Ionus...for not agreeing with you...those that make you a...waitaminute...a..bigot?
You have never insulted me, despite desperate attempts where your intelligence failed to even get you started...are there any facts in your posts ?
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You will need them when you quote from the oldest known source for the Bible passages you wish to analyze.
And those sources are...?
But you must already know those sources to argue what they say....dont you oh mighty greek philosopher ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:05 pm
@Francis,
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First, I didn't say "we', my comment was directed at you personally, as you made the generalisation.
So I may not generalise but you and others may...what was I thinking ! Of course I shouldnt have we'd.
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Second, if I don't care about a general belief, I can address an individual and ask him to stop uttering nonsense.
Do you mean stop his belief in favour of your's ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:15 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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Of course not...you are self educated...right? That's why we all have to rely on your self-acquired knowledge...
When your handicap is recognised and you get a position to study at Uni you will become aware that it is a learning institution not a teaching one. Then you get your first degree and are expected to be self taught even moreso. Then you are in the real world and if you dont learn you get fired. This is the nature of being self educated. We cant all sit around unemployed like you. By they way, where did you get your qualifications that would take a month or more to list ? The Hollywood upstairs school for abused children ?
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I wouldn't have to ask you to explain them.
Oh but you would. You cant understand anything that doesnt agree with you.
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This is soooo deep...where did you copy this quote from? Don't forget to give that person credit...
Deep ? Perhaps to you it is....I wrote it.
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You mean the Lion King? It's a Disney animated movie...it's fictional...talking animals don't exist, Ionus...
Did they also tell you Santa doesnt exist ? Poor diddims...
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No...you know why? 'cause I am running the asylum...
You think you are running the asylum ? Hahahahhaha Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Well I am from the factory and you have been recalled.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:19 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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You mean the Lion King? It's a Disney animated movie...it's fictional...talking animals don't exist, Ionus...
You think you are being honest.... Shocked
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you're the one attacking here...
No, you are attacking people for being different and are telling them they are wrong to believe in religion.
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Well, if you are not a fundamentalist Christian, then you, for sure, have an identity crisis...there.
You have a picture of yourself trying to overcome your obvious inadequacies with overcompensating. I defend Christians out of altruism..you attack them out of fear and bigotry.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:36 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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Are we talking about movies now?
Thats all you talk about. Get a job and stop sitting around wasting your life watching movies.
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That a person with IQ lower than 90 are able to understand simple explanations by watching moving images...that is "what"...
I understand movies are improtant to your learning and they quieten you down. But you need to do something more with you life. Arent people hiring self proclaimed "take more than a month to list all my qualifications" people ?
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I've already gave you a synopsis of the "Dark Ages"...read it.
Yes, but unbeknonest to you because of your poor comprehension, there is nothing thereabout the origin of the name. Where do you imagine it came from ? Please answer in less than 3 kiddies movies.
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You asked : But religious wars kill even more...no?

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I answered : No.

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You said : Nice argument...thanks for proving me wrong!...WOW!!
You ask a question, I answer it and you think I was out to prove you wrong. You were an abused child werent you ? Who did it ? A Catholic priest ?

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Who gives a **** about Roman Art being hindered.
I give a ****...
So what ?
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Inferior in what sense?
In the sense that justifies it being called the dark ages. Try to keep up..it really is painful to have to educate as we go.
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Who says they were not educated ?

Possibly... self- educated like you
When you have professional status you will expect to be self educated as your education continues. You see we dont stay at home watching movies and hoping that will improve our knowledge, neither do we assume like you have that we already know everything.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:41 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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I like the reaction my avatar picture causes to religious bigots
You sat down and figured it out....then took a photo of your rear....then displayed in publicly to annoy religious people.... Rolling Eyes
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What problem?
The problem of you being a vertically challenged unemployable narcissist with strong homosexual tendencies and delusions of being a greek philosopher.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 24 Apr, 2010 07:47 pm
@Jason Proudmoore,
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Perhaps you should read the original context.
The context about what a straw man is?
No, see the words "the original context"....
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No person thinks I'm stupid...
Shocked
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You're a pussycat...
Thank you.
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I don't understand the concept because you can't write coherently...
You dont want to understand. Your religious bigotry for science prevents you from understanding people.
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stop and think before you write something...it works almost every time.
Stop before you write something...it is the best you can hope for.
 

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