Is Evolution a Dangerous Idea? If so, why?

Youve forgotten that most of the world didnt even give a rats ass about Christianity. CHina India and The Arabian peninsula ere busy doing all the heavy scientific lifting while EUrope was wallowing in filth.

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

Would this be the same China that had Confucianism, the same India that had Zarathustrianism then Hindi, the same Arabian peninsula that gave us the early hebrews and later the Islamic faith ?

He feels that all science owes its beginnings to Christianity. Science really developed despite Christianity, not because of it.

If it cannot be denied that no amount of taking thought, nor anything else short of natural intervention, will produce those variations in mental type that lead the race a distinct step forward, it still remains equally true that such variations would be thrown away and lost unless external circumstances were such as to allow of their preservation. In other words, the state of society into which these men of exceptional natural qualities are born, is as important an element in the ultimate result as the fact of such men having arisen.

Classical, Apollinian number we must regard as the creation of Pythagoras--who founded a religion. It was an instinct that guided Nicolaus Cusanus, the great Bishop of Brixen (about 1450) from the idea of the unendingness of God in nature to the elements of the Infinitessimal Calculus. Leibniz himself, who two centuries later definitely settled the methods and notation of the Calculus, was led by purely metaphysical speculations about the divine principle and its relation to infinite extent to conceive and develop the notion of analysis situs---probably the most inspired of all interpretations of pure and emancipated space---the possibilities of which were to be developed later by Grassmann in his Ausdehnungslebre and above all by Riemann, their real creator, in his symbolism of two-sided planes representitive of the nature of equations. And Kepler and Newton, strictly religious natures both, were and remained convinced, like Plato, that is was precisely through the medium of numbers that they had been able to apprehend intuitively the essence of the divine world-order.

What fools like you fail to understand is that if I were to ignore opinion I would be a bigot

It seems I am forever defining words for you.

And what is your explanation?

If you werent a bigot you would have read it by now

I gave you the verses from the Bible that teach or promote that the Earth is flat...deal with it.

No, you didnt.

Pray no-one checks you up on that or you will look even more of a fool...assuming that is possible.

Do you see what happens when you try logic ? You fall flat....Eratosthene calculated the earth's radius

- he didnt prove it was round.

Columbus didnt prove the earth was round - he calculated the circumference to be a third of what it really is

. Early sailing peoples knew the earth was round - they didnt prove it.

The author's of the Bible knew the earth was round - thats why you cant produce evidence they thought it was flat.

Sphere - do you mean the hebrew word sphr meaning book or the greek word sphaira meaning globe or ball ?

Round - the origins are uncertain but do you mean fullness ?

You prove again to be a wishful thinker when it comes your knowledge.

The ancients knew the world was curved in all directions.

And when you say natural you mean unnatural....

But science was complete then..

it knew everything just like it knows everything today

it is not possible for knowledge to exist that you are not aware of

you are the Great Gayson Prodmemore

Science is now complete.

So how does a placebo work ? You are the dumbest....you were the runt of the litter, right ?

If you had any scientific training you would know there is more to science than one opinion or fools like you would be out of control.

Again, it was beyond your comprehension and ability

Pollution

over-population

lots of gadgets that no-one needs but has to have

consumerism that is destroying our natural resource and heritage

creation of super-germs that could wipe us out

...the list is long and I tire of typing for a fool like you.

Look it up.

The nuclear weapon stockpile was natures idea...sorry for you that would be unnatures idea....or a religious invention ?

So the non-religious nazis who used science were the good guys ?

It was the evil christian countries that caused WWII....

your stupidity is setting a new standard for an IQ test...albeit the minimum.

For once, Gayson Prodmemore, you are making sense. You agree with me.

we must promote education and separation of church and state for the citizens of the world.

It looks like a little man with a chip on his shoulder and narcistic homosexual tendencies with a degree of stupidity unequaled even on the internet[...] A fact from you...your big chance for a first and you blew it...dont tell your mum.

Oh I am convinced you like it. Let me guess..you were trying to take a picture of your arse for Gayboy International (centrefold play bunny) when the camera slipped due to excessive use of KY.

You do realise I am australian ?

It is a duty to educate..

Incorrect. I gave a definition of theory before. You were either too lazy or incompetent or bigotted to read it. Read the following :

I qouted : Theories are analytical tools for understanding, explaining, and making predictions about a given subject matter. Theory is constructed of a set of sentences which consist entirely of true statements about the subject matter under consideration. However, the truth of any one of these statements is always relative to the whole theory.

And some day they become a fcat in themselves. Some theories are more accurate then others, some have more facts in the, so to label a theory as fact because you worship science and blow scientists is stupid beyond belief.

You would be farming with hoes but for Christianity. Every other society did

And some day they become a fcat in themselves. Some theories are more accurate then others, some have more facts in the, so to label a theory as fact because you worship science and blow scientists is stupid

looks like spendi is all spittled up

and is waiting to act like the indignant paerish priest whose been caught diddling the altarboys.

I still love how you and ionus seem to try to dance around so you wont be pinned in a corner.

Now science DOESNT owe anything to Christianity exceptnwhen it does. GOOD LOGIC.

Your continued silly attacks have no substance and are as meaningless as your references to Bishop Brixen

It must be strange running around with silly ideas like that in your Ed all day.

If I had had you in a corner of the bar old boy I would show you some science which would fry your brain, turn your hair a whiter shade of grey and have you running down the road as fast as your little legs could carry you.

What you know about science could be written on the back of a postage stamp with a slurry gun. Same for wande. With fm I would go up to a shithouse wall.

The "most apt quote" has been doing the rounds since Caractacus was a lad.

Pretty fancy bottle opener, fm.

The Medieval Irish have accounts of "ships" that sailed in the air and of people reaching down to earthbound observers. The old Irish monks and copyists do not say whether those on board the sky ships were "the grays" or the "little green men!"

This is so true...I should use this as my new sig.

You can dance with the best of your bullshit sycophants.

Your original statement and the one I hold you to was that the "Religionist state "of England was somehow beholden to the (implied but not written) CHRISTIANITY.

Most of the scientists were not even Arab or Muslim.

science was equated with witchcarft and divination.

Youve been a religionist apologist throughout and have leaned on the spendi crap that scinec was dependent on Christianity in Europe and thats bullshit.

Keeping em dumb and subjugated was a great way to maintain control (NOt miuch has changed in Evangelical Fundamenatlism). Now today, even the great Arab civiliozations have given up any leadership they once had in science and are a bunch of feudal nations.

Thats really not what you were trying to spew. Lests stick to the subjects at hand .

Science in England was hampered by the state religion.