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Tue 16 Mar, 2010 11:52 am
"As parents, we can have no joy, knowing that this government is not sufficiently lasting to ensure any thing which we may bequeath to posterity: And by a plain method of argument, as we are running the next generation into debt, we ought to do the work of it, otherwise we use them meanly and pitifully. In order to discover the line of our duty rightly, we should take our children in our hand, and fix our station a few years farther into life; that eminence will present a prospect, which a few present fears and prejudices conceal from our sight."
Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of Government, December 23, 1791
@Amigo,
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.
@Rockhead,
Ive been called many, MANY things but NEVER has anybody called me a moderate.
Are you proposing that Tom Paine is a moderate?
@Amigo,
no.
he's dead i'm pretty sure.
my personal favorite...
"If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. "
@Amigo,
Actually, you are sounding quite conservative. I'm proud of you.
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
my personal favorite...
"If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. "
I always thought that was Ben Franklin, not Tom Paine. Could be wrong.
@Merry Andrew,
I went and checked it.
on the internet, so it has to be true...
(never use me as a source. good rule of thumb)
SILENCE IDIOTS!!!
"These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated"
Thomas Paine, The Crisis
@Amigo,
I was just kidding when I said 'Silence Idiots!'.
Like a joke.....yes?
@Amigo,
well, I was just being silent cuz I wanted to be.
just sayin'...
(i can't answer for the other idiots.)
@Amigo,
Well, since you said, "Silence,
idiots!, Rocky and I both knew you weren't talking to us.
@Amigo,
Paine was pretty cool, I agree.
@Thomas,
one more...
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death.
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church."
-Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistant that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."
[Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]
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