@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:Yeah... and I hate voters too.
uggh, voters are the worse, they keep electing all those horrible politicians
@djjd62,
and then there are those volunteers that work the polls....they enable the voters
I know a couple of decent politicians quite well (not at the national level) and they are sharp and sincere people capable of changing their minds with reason.
I also know several people with whom I disagree on politics (such a simple word for a complexity), that are pals. I think the commonality is that these people, in or out of politics, spend time thinking about issues - at the same time they have some openness to view understanding, and occasional view modifying.
An old friend just popped up in the "people you may know" section of FB, and he has no privacy settings so I was clicking through, seeing what he's up to, thinking of friending him and already not sure (I try to only friend actual friends who I want to be in continual contact with, not just people I'd like to say "hi" to), and then I saw that he'd become a fan of Sean Hannity, and I was like yeah, no.
I generally only discuss politics with people I know to be 1.) liberal or 2.) conservative but in the possession of a cool head and a sense of humor. I never make political statements in public unless it is at a forum . . . and, even then, I hold my tongue.
Well, on another internet forum, I posted a link to a petition from a web site called The Pen. Alright, I have some doubts about that organization but the link was to a petition to be sent to the WH to inform Obama that his politics are too far to the right. I posted it in a group within said forum that is called, "Liberals and Progressives."
What I got in return was not a thanks . . . not a polite statement that a particular writer does not feel comfortable with the petition. . . but something new from people supposedly embracing liberalism: outright abuse.
I was told that I had to be a right-wing crasher whose purpose to sabotage the Obama presidency. I was told that no one likes me.
I have not completely made up my mind to withdraw from this forum . . . but . . . I am thinking of it.
@plainoldme,
I don't know, I met georgeob for and exteneded dinner (first time) we argued about everything except religion) ran out of time) there was never a harsh word (well maybe "you're a ******* idiot" but besides that we had a wonderful time and I would repeat the event any time any place.
@sozobe,
Facebook has done that for me too. Someone I knew in high school will go on a political rant and it makes you cringe. People tend to act like they are anonymous even when their name is clearly visible.
@Seed,
Told this joke a couple of times today. I love the responses. It generally takes a few seconds for people to make the connection, but they love it when it clicks.
@engineer,
I have had that experience with Facebook as well. I find myself cringing a bit as I write because I know who will read it. I am not a believer in conversions.
@plainoldme,
That's interesting, plainoldme. I have a built in thing about not being here to convince people, in this forum or in life ordinaire. This is probably some reaction from a childhood where my home and school very much admired missionary activity, no pun intended. Part of my motivation for being at a2k is to figure out what I think in some kind of ongoing progression, always sort of tuning, and occasionally changing my mind entirely on something (not that I can remember what right this minute). I enjoy reading our able arguers..