Would you kill for God?

Yeah, Boss, that was the point . . .

I do feel kinda bad for Mr. Loudmouth, though--no one seems to want to play his silly game with him . . .

This is a ridiculous question.

Even someone who has been a confirmed aetheist for 50 years is going to follow God's instructions if he is as absolutely sure God is speaking to him as you posit.

Whether one is blessed or crazy, if one is sure God is giving the instructions, one will follow them.

If you want to engage believers in a meaningful debate you'll have to do better than this thread.

Here Jason, why don't go debate this guy. No one on this thread is much of a god follower.

It always strikes me as significant that Abraham was just such an idiot, and was revered as a "Father of his People", and significantly the Muslims too.

You hear a voice that commands you to kill a member of your family in the name of the Lord, your God. You feel it deep in you that it is true, that the lord has utterly revealed Himself to you. There isn't a doubt in your heart. You feel that it couldn't possibly be the Devil putting a "trick" on you, because you've been God's devout believer for decades.

It's ridiculous, not ridiculously easy, and I answered it:

Anyone, including myself, who believes without a doubt that God has instructed him to do anything, will do it.

First you posit that the hypothetical person believes, without doubt, that he has been instructed by God to kill someone, and then you ask "How would you kill someone in the name of God if you don't believe in Him?"

Well, clearly if the person believes, without a doubt, that God has spoken to him, then he believes in God, irrespective of his prior 50 years of disbelief.

Again, it doesn't matter whether or not the person is crazy or sane and blessed, if he believes without a doubt that God has instructed him to do something, he will do it.

You're trying to tell us that if you were crazy and believed without a doubt that God told you to kill someone, you would tell God "Go **** yourself."

Perhaps a crazy person might do so, but not as a result of a rational consideration of the matter - which is what you want to contend.

First of all, crazy people cannot rationally consider anything,

and secondly the response "Go **** yourself God," is entirely irrational if you believe without a doubt that God is speaking to you.

In your simplistic view of the topic you somehow think that telling God to **** himself is heroic.

Your argument is stupid and doesn't even rise to the child-like argument that there can be no God because humans suffer.

The only believers you are likely to draw into your flimsy web are bound to be simpletons

and as much as I'm sure you would like to believe that all believers are simpletons, a relatively intelligent 10 year old believer can shoot down your argument in about 10 seconds.

There is nothing ridiculous about your atheism. The existence of God cannot be proven and so the position that he doesn't exist is not unreasonable.

For some reason, however, you seem to want to to express your atheistic belief in a belligerant manner.

Arm-chair psychology would suggest that you are not so firm is your atheism as you would like us to believe.

The only stooge around here is you.

assure yourself that the individual to whom you refer is no stooge.

And Finn is the only one here i see playing your idiot-child game, and he's only playing to the extent of pointing out to you just how idiotic it is.

So, in answer to the question of how this is working out for you, the self-evident answer is, not at all.

I'd hope things didn't get anywhere near that far, despite the command being so utterly convincing!

I'd hope that someone with a cool head would rush me off the the nearest clinic for emergency treatment!

Are you hearing little voices Jason?

Does this guy have any credibility?

God is dead. I killed him. Yahweh is the **** of a Pagan that moves on and leaves you sniffing.