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Scott Brown - Republican Presidential Candidate in 2012

 
 
Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 12:53 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
That will be interesting, as MA is a pretty liberal place overall; if the populace asks him to support Obama and his policies, will Brown listen to them - or you?


From his speech last night:

"I go to Washington as the representative of no faction or interest, answering only to my conscience and to the people. I’ve got a lot to learn in the Senate, but I know who I am and I know who I serve."

If he stays on message, I think he'll do just fine.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 12:54 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:

Quote:
That will be interesting, as MA is a pretty liberal place overall; if the populace asks him to support Obama and his policies, will Brown listen to them - or you?


From his speech last night:

"I go to Washington as the representative of no faction or interest, answering only to my conscience and to the people. I’ve got a lot to learn in the Senate, but I know who I am and I know who I serve."

If he stays on message, I think he'll do just fine.


Hahaha, yeah; but what does that mean, when the rubber hits the road?

Cycloptichorn
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:15 pm
This guy can't run. You have to be born on American soil to run. The birth certificate looks fake to me. He's probably a secret Hindu.

T
K
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:19 pm
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:
This guy can't run. You have to be born on American soil to run. The birth certificate looks fake to me. He's probably a secret Hindu.

Wait until it becomes public knowledge that his real middle name is "Mahmud."
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:22 pm
@Ticomaya,
T
K
Or Adolf.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:23 pm
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:
This guy can't run. You have to be born on American soil to run. The birth certificate looks fake to me. He's probably a secret Hindu.

Wait until it becomes public knowledge that his real middle name is "Mahmud."
What, "Brown" isn't bad enough?
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:24 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:
What, "Brown" isn't bad enough?

Good point.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:31 pm
@tsarstepan,
Yes I did realize it

<my return of sacrasim apparently didn't come across ie via the blond joke>
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dirrtydozen22
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 04:44 pm
Now that Scott Brown got the seat, Health Care reform is dead, just like during the Clinton years. Now I lost hope of the uninsured ever getting quality health care bc the repubs decided to kill the plan in '96 and in '10.
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 04:46 pm
@dirrtydozen22,
Healthcare is not dead because of Scott Brown; it's dead because the Democrats failed to live up to their campaign promises. And Obama failed to LEAD.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 05:05 pm
@dyslexia,
Hey!
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 05:21 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:

Issues

Why I'm Running...
America is a great country but we also have some challenges that we need to solve if we're going to remain the world's superpower. The most important of our challenges is getting the U.S. economy moving again. People are hurting as they struggle to make ends meet. They're worried about their future, and that of their children and grandchildren. I want to ensure that we leave them an America that is financially stronger and independent: minus a national debt that we can never repay.

Health Care
I believe that all Americans deserve health care coverage, but I am opposed to the health care legislation that is under consideration in Congress and will vote against it. It will raise taxes, increase government spending and lower the quality of care, especially for elders on Medicare. I support strengthening the existing private market system with policies that will drive down costs and make it easier for people to purchase affordable insurance. In Massachusetts, I support the 2006 healthcare law that was successful in expanding coverage, but I also recognize that the state must now turn its attention to controlling costs.

Economy
I am a free enterprise advocate who believes that lower taxes can encourage economic growth. Raising taxes stifles growth, weakens the economy and puts more people out of work. Our economy works best when individuals have more of their income to spend, and businesses have money to invest and add jobs. I have been a fiscal watchdog in the state legislature fighting bigger government, higher taxes and wasteful spending.

Energy and Environment
I support common-sense environment policy that will help to reduce pollution and preserve our precious open spaces. I realize that without action now, future generations will be left to clean up the mess we leave. In order to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, I support reasonable and appropriate development of alternative energy sources such as wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal and improved hydroelectric facilities. I oppose a national cap and trade program because of the higher costs that families and businesses would incur.

Education
I am passionate about improving the quality of our public schools. Accountability and high standards are paramount. I support choice through charter schools, as well as the MCAS exam as a graduation requirement. I have worked to ensure that all children have access to a quality education. I am a strong advocate for the METCO program, which provides lower income students with broader educational opportunities.

Immigration
I recognize that our strength as a nation is built on the immigrant experience in America. I welcome legal immigration to this country. However, we are also a nation of laws and government should not adopt policies that encourage illegal immigration. Providing driver’s licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrant families will act as a magnet in drawing more people here in violation of the law and it will impose new costs on taxpayers. I oppose amnesty, and I believe we ought to strengthen our border enforcement and institute an employment verification system with penalties for companies that hire illegal immigrants.

Veterans
As a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army National Guard, I am uniquely aware of the importance and sacrifice of our men and women serving in the military. I have been a vigorous supporter of legislation providing benefits to returning service members, as well as, benefits for the families of those killed in action. I believe we need to recognize the sacrifice of all of our servicemembers by keeping better track of returning military personnel so they get the services they deserve. That includes providing them with first-class medical care and other benefits to which they are entitled. I am known as a leader on veterans' issues through my work on the Veterans and Federal Affairs Committee, the Hidden Wounds of War Commission, and the Governor's Task Force on Returning Veterans.

Gun issues
I support the Second Amendment and believe that citizens have the right to keep and bear arms as a basic constitutional liberty. I support safe and responsible gun ownership.

Death penalty
I believe there are some crimes that are so heinous that they deserve capital punishment. Our Government should have the ability to impose the death penalty in cases where it is justified.

Abortion
While this decision should ultimately be made by the woman in consultation with her doctor, I believe we need to reduce the number of abortions in America. I believe government has the responsibility to regulate in this area and I support parental consent and notification requirements and I oppose partial birth abortion. I also believe there are people of good will on both sides of the issue and we ought to work together to support and promote adoption as an alternative to abortion.

Marriage
I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. States should be free to make their own laws in this area, so long as they reflect the people's will as expressed through them directly, or as expressed through their elected representatives.
Israel
Israel has made enormous sacrifices in an attempt to secure peace " including unilateral withdrawal from Gaza. I support a two-state solution that reaffirms Israel’s right to exist and provides the Palestinians with a place of their own where both sides can live in peace and security. As our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel lives every day under the threat of terror yet shares with America a dedication to democratic ideals, a respect for faith, and a commitment to peace in the region. Until a lasting peace is achieved, I support the security barrier erected by Israel which has proven successful in protecting Israeli civilians from terrorist attacks.


Iran
I support the bi-partisan Iran sanctions bill and believe that until Ahmadinejad gives up his nuclear ambitions he should be isolated from the rest of the world. With its reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons, Iran represents the biggest threat to Israel. Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier who has threatened to wipe Israel off the map. Meeting with him confers legitimacy when the only correct response is to treat him as an outcast. A personal meeting with Ahmadinejad, as suggested by my opponent, would embolden him and be used as a propaganda tool to strengthen his position. source
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 07:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:


Supposedly he represents ALL the citizens of MA; are you claiming that he should only represent those who voted for him, and to hell with the other half?

Cycloptichorn


He ran as a Republican, and stated his platform. Presumeably, the voters chose the candidate that best represented them. You're not saying Obama should suddenly start representing all his voters, are you? "We Won", remember?
ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 07:23 pm
@roger,
Quote:

He ran as a Republican, and stated his platform. Presumeably, the voters chose the candidate that best represented them. You're not saying Obama should suddenly start representing all his voters, are you? "We Won", remember?


I agree with you, Roger (even as a Coakley voter). Elections matter.

But two points...

1) Many Scott Brown voters support Obama. Obama's approval rating in Massachusetts (as measured after the Brown victory) is 61%. This includes the 33% of Scott Brown voters approve of the way that Obama is doing his job (a surprising 13% of Brown voters support the "proposed changes to the health care system being developed by (Congress) and (the Obama administration").

((You may ask why someone who supports Obama would vote for a candidate who pledged to block Obama's agenda-- I don't have a good answer for that one))

source : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/WaPoKaiserHarvard_MassPoll_Jan22.pdf?sid=ST2010012203176

2) The Democrats still have 58 votes in the Senate (i.e. the Republic control of the Senate is minimal).




OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 07:33 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:
He ran as a Republican, and stated his platform.
Presumeably, the voters chose the candidate that best represented them.
You're not saying Obama should suddenly start representing all his voters, are you? "We Won", remember?
He was elected on a distinctly conservative platform.
We will see how closely he will conform his votes to his platform.
From that analysis, we will determine whether he is fit to represent the GOP in the next presidential election.





David
ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 08:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
The question here is whether he will serve his constituents (i.e. the citizens of Massachusetts who he represents), or some national political party.

Actually this is a really interesting question. I don't know which way he will go. I also don't know which option will make him a better choice for any political office he may seek in the future.

But I am a Massachusetts citizen. He works for me.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 08:12 pm
@ebrown p,
Time will reveal his sincerity
or absence thereof.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 08:34 pm
@ebrown p,
I was sure you would agree with the general principle.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jan, 2010 10:11 pm
Oh, man, I love this, absolutely love it!!! The guy hasn't even had a chance to cast his first vote as a Senator, we know next to nothing about him except that he's a telegenic hunk, and already he's being touted as a potential presidential candidate!?

As they say, Only in America!
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 07:46 am
@Merry Andrew,
Wasn't this Obama not too long ago?
 

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