Harry Reid: racist or political realist?

Oh, so that's why LIBERALS are the ones who fight to keep others from enjoying the same rights and opportunities as you do; that's why we argue against gay marriage, for example. Because we view any expansion of rights of others as hurting us.

Wait a minute, that's Conservatives!

That doesn't seem to square with your theory, Okie.

Cycloptichorn

Anyone and everyone are free to marry. You are mixing rights with something else, such as the definition of marriage, wherein you may advocate marriage to someone other than men with women or vice versa, or to marry something, that have never been commonly allowed by law by virtually any society on the face of the earth since the dawn of time. Yes, I meant to say "marry something," as I think I heard recently that some people actually now want to marry their dog or their car or other things, cyclops, I would need to research that but I think that was the news.

High Seas had the temerity to write: Speaking of dodges

....the spot was tested by H.C.D., a New Jersey-based advertising-research firm, and Republicans were surprisingly receptive: fifty-five per cent of them called the ad “effective,” even though only twenty-nine per cent of them supported gay marriage. Glenn Kessler, the head of research for H.C.D., told me, “That suggests a useful dissonance.”

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/01/18/100118fa_fact_talbot?currentPage=all#ixzz0cokSsZoM

P.S. The "targeted ads" for homosexual marriage are, in fact, extremely effective - though mostly in generating an "ICK" response:

The response that you've given is entirely consistent with what I said above: you aren't really for maximum freedom for everyone, you are for freedom for YOU and people like YOU; and you wonder why the Republican party does poorly amongst minorities... you show no sensitivity to their concerns and then insult them by comparing their desire for happiness to people who want to marry animals.

I really doubt you could have provided a better example of my point if you had tried, and I thank you for doing so.

Cycloptichorn

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P.S. The "targeted ads" for homosexual marriage are, in fact, extremely effective - though mostly in generating an "ICK" response:

So, specifically - what about that or other ads generates an 'ick' response from you? I'd love to know.

Cycloptichorn

...One veteran gay activist could sense the change in the attitudes of the justices. Kevin Cathcart, executive director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, has been part of a small but determined circle of lawyers plotting gay-rights strategy since 1984. In the past, he had to deal with what he called the "ick factor"...

High Seas wrote: P.S. The "targeted ads" for homosexual marriage are, in fact, extremely effective - though mostly in generating an "ICK" response:

Hardly - both post and quote claim the ads are extremely effective. No contradiction of any kind.