By Definition and Other Questions

Re: By Definition and Other Questions


"ITxpo" is a IT industry Trade Show. The naming is a play on the "IT" moniker and the word "expo" which is a commonly used short name for "exposition".

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Thanks fishin', xpo, xp, O!

"I'm not necessarily claiming it should be of worse quality, but why should code submitted randomly by some hacker in Russia and distributed by some open source project, why is that, by definition, better?"

"By definition" in this context suggests an assumption. It would be helpful if the preceding sentence were included here, but I think I can explain what is meant.

The assumption is that whatever the source of the code, the one from a Russian hacker would be better. For example, you've got a car made in the United States and a car made in Argentina. Since the US has a reputation for making fairly good cars, you could say that the car from the US is by definition better than the car made in Argentina. This is an assumption, and doesn't really take into account the quality of either car in question.

3) Granted, I think a problem arises when they don't understand what to do when someone says "No thanks, I'm not interested", that implicates eroding your freedom of choice.
The usage "granted" is most commonly used, and its accurate meaning is "agreed"?

"Granted" does mean agreed. Or given. Something that's assumed to be known or correct.

Both these sentences are awkwardly worded, btw.

I think I have gotten what "by definition" means. Thanks Roberta.

As for "granted", do you mean the defintion of the word can be described as "assumed (something to be known or correct)"?

You indicated "Both these sentences are awkwardly worded, btw." Is the both including the first sentence -- "I'm not necessarily claiming it should be of worse quality, but why should code submitted randomly by some hacker in Russia and distributed by some open source project, why is that, by definition, better?" ?
Ah! I have ever thought this sentence is well-worded.

As for "granted", do you mean the defintion of the word can be described as "assumed (something to be known or correct)"?

Yes, Oristar, "granted" may be used to assume that something is correct. It's often used as a word of concession in an argument or disagreement. For example, I say that New York is the greatest city on the planet. My friend says that Paris is the greatest city. We're arguing the merits and faults of each city. Then my friend says, "Granted, New York is bigger and more diverse, but ...."

Something strange happens at the end of this sentence. It's as if someone is speaking, not writing:
"I'm not necessarily claiming it should be of worse quality, but why should code submitted randomly by some hacker in Russia and distributed by some open source project, by definition, better?"

I deleted the awkward section. Now it sounds like a written sentence and makes sense all the way through.

I totally got it now. Thanks Roberta!

Oristar, I'm glad you got it. Now be careful and don't fall off the mountain! :-)

Boida, you forgot the 'to be' verb.

You're right, Craven. I deleted one too many words. Mea culpa.


Oristar, Here's the corrected sentence:

"I'm not necessarily claiming it should be of worse quality, but why should code submitted randomly by some hacker in Russia and distributed by some open source project, by definition, be better?"