What Did Jesus Sacrifice?

@BillRM,

Does that mean that you worship Thomas Paine?

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@Jason Proudmoore,

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Look Janson in the end on amount of facts or logic is going to effect the believers opinions that Obama was not born in Hawaii , or that more then one man with a rifle kill JFK, or we did not land on the moon or that there is a three in one god head or.......

Conspiracy theorists (like creationists) prefer a conspiracy theory than any theory at all.

Is that your theory?

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@BillRM,

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Come on I was raised in the same culture you was and my commonsense kick in at ten to reject all this nonsense so what went wrong in your case?

Um, I somehow don't think that you were raised in the same culture as me. So, your common sense kicked in at age 10. When did it leave? Age 12?

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I can still remember the bit of nonsense that trigger my start at rejection at age ten.

You have a very good memory. Apparently.

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Once more what is wrong with you?

Nothing. At least as far as I know. I did have a lttle indigestion last night, but I am feeling ok now.

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@Intrepid,

Yeah...it is the theory of the mind...how psychology is able to explain that...at the level of the brain.

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@Intrepid,

I somehow don't think that you were raised in the same culture as me.
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So you were not raised in the Judeo-Christian culture that predominate Western Society for the last two thousands years or so?

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@BillRM,

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I somehow don't think that you were raised in the same culture as me.
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So you were not raised in the Judeo-Christian culture that predominate Western Society for the last two thousands years or so?

Since that is an American term in use for about the past one hundred years, perhaps you could explain it's meaning so I can determine whether it may apply to me.

I have just learned something. I was not aware that western society had been predominate for 2000 years. This is quite a revelation.

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@Intrepid,

So you do not understand the meaning of Judeo-Christian is that your silly statement?

Game playing indeed.

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folks Jesus, Son of God, Secular Prophet, Crazy Jew rabbler rouser whatever... sacrificed his life over his beliefs and convictions. . That ought to be worth something.

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BPB wrote:

sacrificed his life over his beliefs and convictions. . That ought to be worth something.

It certainly would be worth something..had you historical evidence that the dude in question even existed..

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

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folks Jesus, Son of God, Secular Prophet, Crazy Jew rabbler rouser whatever... sacrificed his life over his beliefs and convictions. . That ought to be worth something.

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@rosborne979,

Say for instance if Jesus was God made manifest in human form, ie he had the power of God at his disposal ( if he could perform all those miracles including his own resurrection), would he have not had the power to stop being crucified at any point, and also the mastery to by pass the pain if he so wished, so could you not argue that it was then this was simply a demonstration, not a sacrifice

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@Jason Dare,

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, ie he had the power of God at his disposal ( if he could perform all those miracles including his own resurrection), would he have not had the power to stop being crucified at any point, and also the mastery to by pass the pain if he so wished, so could you not argue that it was then this was simply a demonstration, not a sacrifice

The three in one god is confusing and have been a reason for a lot of blood flowing in the last two thousands years.

On the cross he is said to had cry out to his "father" and there is a comment that not even he know when Dad is going to send him back.

He is part of the god head and yet he is not part of the god head but then when had myth needed to follow logic?

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@Jason Dare,

Jason Dare wrote:

Say for instance if Jesus was God made manifest in human form, ie he had the power of God at his disposal ( if he could perform all those miracles including his own resurrection), would he have not had the power to stop being crucified at any point, and also the mastery to by pass the pain if he so wished, so could you not argue that it was then this was simply a demonstration, not a sacrifice.

Sure. Anything is possible in a fantasy story, it hardly requires analysis.

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@Jason Dare,

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Say for instance if Jesus was God made manifest in human form, ie he had the power of God at his disposal ( if he could perform all those miracles including his own resurrection), would he have not had the power to stop being crucified at any point, and also the mastery to by pass the pain if he so wished, so could you not argue that it was then this was simply a demonstration, not a sacrifice

But how does the"death" of Jesus constitute as an act of forgiveness from a sin that we didn't even commit?

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@Jason Proudmoore,

maybe it doesen't, maybe he was just showing us who we really are

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@Jason Dare,

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maybe it doesen't, maybe he was just showing us who we really are

What?
What does this have to do with original sin and precarious redemption?

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@Jason Proudmoore,

Sorry to have missed this.
It looks like all are having fun
I'll have to hand it to you Jason, for bringing my old friend Setanta into the discussion.

Looking for a logical thread to grasp onto.

Carry on

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@neologist,

I was having fun, but it looks like the amusement is over...

I think your friend Setanta doesn't want to be involved in all this...too bad.

Is Setanta actually an atheist, neo?

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@Jason Proudmoore,

Nontheist might be a better word, if there is such a word.

But I shouldn't speculate. We have had many an enlightening exchange.

(Proverbs 27:17) . . .By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another.

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So this clown comes here to bait people, and to amuse his puerile self by poking theists with virtual sharp sticks--and then he can't understand why adults don't want to play. Pathetic . . .

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