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I'mSick David -- This one's just for you!

Posted on: Friday, December 4, 2009

Gun registrations in Hawaii on record pace
Ownership nearly doubled from 2000 to 2008, with 26,000 purchased last

Hawai'i residents have registered guns at a record pace for each of the past four years, and appear headed for a new high again this year, preliminary figures show.

Nearly 26,000 firearms " an annual record " were registered with the four county police departments during 2008.

Yearly gun registrations in Hawai'i have marched steadily upward for most of the past decade " from about 13,600 in 2000 to 25,996 in 2008 " said Paul Perrone, chief of research and statistics for the Hawaii Department of the Attorney General.

Hawai'i firearms dealers and Hawaii Rifle Association officials say the rise in gun ownership here is in line with a similar trend across much of the Mainland.

They attribute the increase in gun sales to a combination of factors, most notably the two Persian Gulf Wars, the terrorist attack on New York City and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, and most recently, the election of Barack Obama as president of the United States and fears he might back a prohibition on future sales of certain types of firearms.

Harvey Gerwig II, president and a director of the Hawaii Rifle Association, attributes the increase in gun sales to how Americans feel about their country and their leaders.

"When people don't feel confident about the direction the country is going, they look for another way to up their confidence level," Gerwig said.

recent increase
The number of firearms registered here each year may be just a fraction of those actually in Hawai'i. Perrone said police estimate there could be approximately one for every man, woman and child in the state.

"Firearms Registrations in Hawaii, 2008" a report authored by Perrone and released in June, says that the biggest increase in gun registrations occurred last year, when Hawai'i's economy tanked.

The state's unemployment rate is the highest it has been in more than a decade and the local economy is in a prolonged slump, but even in lean times Hawai'i residents have found the money to buy handguns and rifles.

The 25,996 firearms registered last year was a 19 percent increase from 2007.

Much of the growth in firearms registrations here took place during the past four years.

Unlike most states, Hawai'i does not require potential gun purchasers to pass an "instant criminal background check," because Hawai'i gun registration laws are among the most stringent in the country and go well beyond the instant check.

But some gun dealers here have would-be gun buyers undergo the instant check to quickly see if there is anything in the buyer's background that would prohibit them from buying a gun.

The number of people in Hawai'i applying for an instant criminal background check jumped by 37 percent during the first nine months of this year compared with the same period last year, according to data collected by the FBI and reported by Bloomberg News.
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[+3] - djjd62 - 12/04/2009[quote="BillRM"]I myself prefer to live in an area where the honest citizens are allow to be arm if they wish to be. I indeed feel a lot safer in a Denny late at night knowing I am not...

@Merry Andrew,

What's going on, do you think?

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@Merry Andrew,

Merry Andrew wrote:

I'mSick David -- This one's just for you!

O, NO! Andy -- u want me to call u an ambulance ?
Somatic
or
psychiatric ?
Lemme know when visiting days r !

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Merry Andrew wrote:
I'mSick David -- This one's just for you!

O, NO! Andy -- u want me to call u an ambulance ?
Somatic
or
psychiatric ?
Lemme know when visiting days r !

No, thank you, David. But it's very kind of you to offer.

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@dlowan,

dlowan wrote:

What's going on, do you think?

At a guess, I'd say prob'ly the same type of paranoia that has gripped the mainland recently.

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Paranoia strikes deep.

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@Merry Andrew,

What gentlemen are wrong or of concern about law-abiding citizens owning and registing firearms even in large numbers?

Going back four generations of my family tree everyone had own firearms and there is no record that I had come across of anyone in my family line misusing those arms in that period of time.

Let see I inherent a nice 12 gauge side by side shotgun from a great uncle and a real nice 100 plus years old four barrels derringer with a rotating firing pin instead of rotating barrels from my grandfather who got it from his father and a nice dear rifle from my father.

Right now beside the guns above I own a S&W 357 revolver, a model 1911A 45 and a no name brand two barrels 38 derringer.

My wife have a short barrel riot pump shotgun and a 38 S&W revolver and a 25 semi-automatic and a few rifles she inherent out of the collection of her ex-husband.

In fact, off hand, I cannot think of anyone in my and my wife family that does not own firearms and yet we had no arrest records of any kind either.

This is in fact kind of common in the USA from what I understand of gun ownership patterns.

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@Merry Andrew,

You're very welcome to move to Astoria, Queens, NYC. Apparently much safer place to live then Hawaii. Very Happy

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@tsarstepan,

Consider New Mexico..

(what I don't know about goings on in NM is probably good for my sense of well being)

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@tsarstepan,

You're very welcome to move to Astoria, Queens, NYC. Apparently much safer place to live then Hawaii.
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I myself prefer to live in an area where the honest citizens are allow to be arm if they wish to be.

I indeed feel a lot safer in a Denny late at night knowing I am not the only arm citizen having a late meal.

There is a common type of gun case/purse design sold in gun shops that fit on your belt and is design to allow you to have rapid access to the gun inside and after knowing what to look for you would be surprise at how many citizens are arms in my state.

My wife and I once was going on a four days cruise where they had security at the gate and as we approach you could see the guards coming alert as they became aware of my wife gun purse on her belt.

Laughing she informed them that she was using it to carry her passport and money and open it to show them that there was no firearm then in it.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

I myself prefer to live in an area where the honest citizens are allow to be arm if they wish to be.

I indeed feel a lot safer in a Denny late at night knowing I am not the only arm citizen having a late meal.

i myself prefer to live in an area where there are no Denny's

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@djjd62,

Let me second that notion!

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@djjd62,

myself prefer to live in an area where there are no Denny's
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NO DENNYS

Hell no place for the Tiger Woods of this world to run to after the wife beat them up at 2 AM for being in the headline of the National Enquirer?

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@Merry Andrew,

Merry Andrew wrote:

I'mSick David -- This one's just for you!

Posted on: Friday, December 4, 2009

Gun registrations in Hawaii on record pace
Ownership nearly doubled from 2000 to 2008, with 26,000 purchased last

Hawai'i residents have registered guns at a record pace for each
of the past four years, and appear headed for a new high again
this year, preliminary figures show.

Nearly 26,000 firearms " an annual record " were registered
with the four county police departments during 2008.

Yearly gun registrations in Hawai'i have marched steadily upward for
most of the past decade " from about 13,600 in 2000 to 25,996
in 2008 " said Paul Perrone, chief of research and statistics for the
Hawaii Department of the Attorney General.

Hawai'i firearms dealers and Hawaii Rifle Association officials say
the rise in gun ownership here is in line with a similar trend across
much of the Mainland.

They attribute the increase in gun sales to a combination of factors,
most notably the two Persian Gulf Wars, the terrorist attack
on New York City and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, and most recently,
the election of Barack Obama as president of the United States
and fears he might back a prohibition on future sales of certain types of firearms.

Harvey Gerwig II, president and a director of the Hawaii Rifle Association,
attributes the increase in gun sales to how Americans feel about
their country and their leaders.

"When people don't feel confident about the direction the country
is going, they look for another way to up their confidence level," Gerwig said.

recent increase
The number of firearms registered here each year may be just
a fraction of those actually in Hawai'i. Perrone said police estimate
there could be approximately one for every man, woman and child in the state.
[Is there a Nobel Prize for being OBVIOUS ??]

"Firearms Registrations in Hawaii, 2008" a report authored by Perrone
and released in June, says that the biggest increase in gun registrations
occurred last year, when Hawai'i's economy tanked.

The state's unemployment rate is the highest it has been in more
than a decade and the local economy is in a prolonged slump,
but even in lean times Hawai'i residents have found the money to buy
handguns and rifles.

The 25,996 firearms registered last year was a 19 percent increase from 2007.

Much of the growth in firearms registrations here took place during
the past four years.

Unlike most states, Hawai'i does not require potential gun purchasers
to pass an "instant criminal background check," because Hawai'i gun
registration laws are among the most stringent in the country and go
well beyond the instant check.

But some gun dealers here have would-be gun buyers undergo
the instant check to quickly see if there is anything in the buyer's
background that would prohibit them from buying a gun.

The number of people in Hawai'i applying for an instant criminal
background check jumped by 37 percent during the first nine months
of this year compared with the same period last year, according to
data collected by the FBI and reported by Bloomberg News.
More here:
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20091204/NEWS01/912040344?source=rss_localnews

My bet is that u do not really feel in greater danger --
that u say that in humor. If u r serious, lemme know.

Everyone sees the world thru his own eyes
and reaches his own conclusions about what is likely to happen.
In my opinion, as of now: everything will continue essentially
as it has been -- the lore qua 2012 to the contrary notwithstanding.

It coud be possible that the citizens of Hawaii feel un-ez; I dunno.
I don 't feel threatened.
I knew that I was not threatened on 9/11, while I saw the smoke rising
from the World Trade Center. I was about ten miles away;
whereas my girlfriend at the time, who lives out on Long Island,
about 40 miles away, was emotionally stricken.

I don 't feel threatened by increasing unemployment nor the other matters cited in your article. When I go out driving, I do not fear
getting a flat tire, nor an automotive collision, tho both have occurred.
(I DO keep a jack n spare tire in my trunk, just in case.)
The last time that I felt un-ez about my personal security,
I was 8 years old -- until I armed myself. Since then, I 've felt serene.

I feel even serener since the USSC came out with HELLER.
I want my fellow citizens to be well armed, as they used to be.

David

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@tsarstepan,

tsarstepan wrote:

You're very welcome to move to Astoria, Queens, NYC.
Apparently much safer place to live then Hawaii.

Y Astoria ?

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@djjd62,

Denny's????

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@OmSigDAVID,

Why not? I live in Astoria. The rents are reasonable. The neighborhood is quiet. Plenty of grocery stores in walking distance.

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@BillRM,

Manhattan has plenty of 24 hour diners. Clean restaurants serving decent food. Go Viands!

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@dlowan,

not sure what the australian equivalent would be

Denny's (also seen as Denny's Diner on some of the locations' signage) is a full-service coffee shop/family restaurant chain in the United States. It operates over 1,500 restaurants in the United States (including Puerto Rico), Canada, Curaçao, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, and New Zealand.

Denny's is known for always being open, serving breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert around the clock. Many of their restaurants are located in proximity to freeway exits and in service areas. Unlike many other restaurant chains, Denny's does not close on holidays or nights, except where required by law.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Denny%27s-Ontario%2C_California.jpg

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@djjd62,

I've been to a Denny's several dozen times while I was stationed at Fort Hood. It never was my idea. Someone else in my unit always suggested it. The breakfasts were always tepid when they came to the table. Blecch!

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